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# especially when most of them are just 3 or 4 collected comics
Even Dark Knight and Watchmen were just collected versions of the monthly story arc

Doesn't stop them being cracking stories mind and all the better for the visual medium
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:22, archived)
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Nope wouldn't say they are crap stories, I am sure there are some but the ones I know off (ie. the big ones :D) are decent enough, but they are a bloody comic not a graphic novel.

(I helped save b3ta! Saner, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:37, archived)
# Why?
What's a graphic novel if it's not a comic (or even a collection of a comic) then?
(I helped save b3ta! Smallbrainfield, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:45, archived)
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I just don't like the phrase, it's a comic book, regardless of how many adults read it but don't want to say "Yeah, so what I am reading a comic"

I am not knocking the content, just call the damn things what they are.

Rant over. :D


(I helped save b3ta! Saner, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:53, archived)
# comic book as opposed to a comic makes sense
calling a monthly edition a book is more crazy than defining the compilation a novel as the proportions are just completely different.

you should write to DC and Marvel and demand they change all definitions asap
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:55, archived)
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I could do but I cant bring myself to write to a company called

"Detective Comics Comics"

I fear they would not take my proposals seriously either, however I am going out tonight, so my 11pm drunken rant that I will inevitably send may get them to change it :D
(I helped save b3ta! Saner, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 14:05, archived)
# I wouldn't say they were comics though
comics are thin and flimsy, these collected editions are quite thick and heavy in comparison. Perhaps you should work out a correct naming convention based on size and weight.

Novel would definitely be out then as novels in my mind are smaller, in fact a quick measurement shows me the average paperback book (or novel) is about 11 by 17cm.

I suggest you start calling them "comic omnibuses" for the ones that are simply compilations and perhaps "illustrated stories" for the ones that are actually graphic novels, like MAUS, Dave Gibbon's The Originals, Willworld and things like that.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:49, archived)
# illustrated stories is good,
but it makes them sound like something a 5 year old gets in school.


Maybe they should be called.

"Not Graphic Novels because Saner hates the phrase, but they are larger than a novel, but smaller than your everyday newspaper and contain stories aimed at adults who started reading comics when they were younger, ps please make this into a film"

I think its got a good ring to it, and it can be shortened to "NGNBSHTPBTALTANBSTYENACSAAAWSRCWTWYPPMTIAF"
(I helped save b3ta! Saner, Tue 13 Jul 2010, 13:57, archived)