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# if you overlay the non moving parts of the first frame on all of them
then your file can be a lot smaller and not slow the page down so much
www.b3tards.com/u/037e58b9e054b3c8dd7b/the-incuntibles-rob-manuel-herman-10.gif
Plus I halved the number of frames, same joke, politer filesize - you don't have to use all 400k
/from the love of optimisation 1994
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:07, archived)
# That is very helpful
I'd like to have a go at animations, I think my photoshop does it.
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:09, archived)
# Hey hey toasty
Can you explain how to overlay the non moving parts of the first frame on all of them in Photoshop? I thought I knew how to optimize but this has me baffled.
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:12, archived)
# sorry no, don't use Photoshop
most free animated gif tools from the 90s will do it in an instant though
I use a copy of Animation Shop I bought a long time ago, it has a propogate paste option that applies whatever you're holding to every frame wherever you place it.
How does Potatoshop handle gifs, just as layers? if so duplicate the first layer, erase the moving parts then duplicate and collapse down on to every frame.
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:14, archived)
# Ah
I assumed you were talking about PS, I thought there was an option I'd missed.

Yes, the way I use it, it handles them as layers. Erasing all non-moving parts on a layer-by-layer basis would be a lot of work in most cases I reckon.
Ok, I just re-read your edit... yeah, you could overlay the non-moving parts which are common to all layers, but since they're common to all layers, they won't move anyway, so I don't think that's going to change the finished file-size. Not sure though.... I'll look into this.
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:16, archived)
# if it's not moving then it should auto ignore - if not, potatoshop is a twat
but herman's is full of noise where it needn't be, so I'm saying paste a copy of the first frame where you don't need motion to sort it.
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:25, archived)
# Yeah, it does auto-ignore, at least that's the default option.
The noise I'm seeing in Herman's post may be due to diffusion? I tend not to use it, since it often really inflates the filesize.
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:28, archived)
# diffusion shouldn't be a problem if the layers are identical
I'm guessing he's using After Effects which was always an utter cockbucket when it came to such things, it's not exactly aimed for the animated gif market though so I suppose it's excused.
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:34, archived)
# size
done the picture in photoshop then used after affects to do the lightening,didnt set the time it was om 5 seconds,it came out at 120 frames so i chopped it down into photoshop,thats why its quite big!
ps,can u give me anymore tips on making gifs and i dont believe you dont use photoshop :D
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:39, archived)
# an old copy of Paint Shop Pro X is what I use most
best tip is to download a free animated gif tool, fuck Photoshop, overpriced nonsense.
(, Mon 27 Dec 2010, 19:57, archived)