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# The Shamen went really downhill after that
(I helped save b3ta! Bela Lugosi's Dad, Mon 7 Feb 2011, 16:03, archived)
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after that from the very start.
(I helped save b3ta! J Peasemould Gruntfuttock Alpha Mike Foxtrot, Mon 7 Feb 2011, 16:05, archived)