So ... because someone else broke the law, it's OK for you to?I see. So because I was mugged, it's OK for me to burgle someone?
FFS give it a rest - if you can't handle the road you shouldn't be on it - end of story.
If a pedestrian crosses on a red man and you hit him it's still your fault, because the pedestrian has right of way always, except on the motorway.
You'd know that if you'd ever read the highway code.
The world would be a better place if everyone laid down their arms and planted flowers in the barrels of all the guns.
(FFS give it a rest - if you can't handle the road you shouldn't be on it - end of story.
If a pedestrian crosses on a red man and you hit him it's still your fault, because the pedestrian has right of way always, except on the motorway.
You'd know that if you'd ever read the highway code.
The world would be a better place if everyone laid down their arms and planted flowers in the barrels of all the guns.
Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:15,
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Hahahahahathe highway code doesn't apply to cyclists!
silly Vagabond
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emvee cruor deo cruoris,
Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:20,
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Reading through the 'Advanced Hand Signals' section, I was surprised to see this!* Although I have been known to use this.
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Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on,
Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:47,
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Why is it always WOO in your responses? Wobbly Bloke Hello, did I miss anything on,
Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:25,
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sorry, where in my post did I suggest I run red lights? I'm saying that there should be a bit of proportion in the punishment. Currently, a pedestrian who runs across a junction gets a dressing down if caught. A cyclist might get a ticket, and a car driver might lose their license. Makes sense. Leave the law like that. I'm in no way arguing that cyclists are above the law, but it's just common sense that a car with momentum 1000kg *10m/s=10000kgm/s can do more damage than a bike with 75kg*5m/s =375kgm/s, so you should have correspondingly severe rules for breaking the rules. Or would you favour a Saudi system of punishment for everything else as well as cycling misdemeanours? No shades of grey, you're either on the side of good and righteousness or you aren't. Off with your hand.
Also, you can't possibly be suggesting that no car drivers or pedestrians behave badly in London can you emvee? Some people are dicks, get used to it. You notice them and the good cyclists blend into the scenery (or don't, because they have lots of flashing lights and hi vis on, but you get my point).
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Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:40,
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Also, you can't possibly be suggesting that no car drivers or pedestrians behave badly in London can you emvee? Some people are dicks, get used to it. You notice them and the good cyclists blend into the scenery (or don't, because they have lots of flashing lights and hi vis on, but you get my point).
*re-iterates point about pedestrians having right of way*though I did see a cyclist the other day jump off his bike at the crossroads, walk it across the red light and then remount on the other side...none of which I have a problem with
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Wed 20 Apr 2011, 17:11,
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I don't drive, I cycle every day, yet I agree with this.There are far too many wankers about, on both four wheels AND two.
And I'll willingly include myself in with this, I'm not above criticism. The only thing I CAN say with honesty is that I've never run a light, gone on the path, or gone on the wrong side of the road, all of which I see morons doing just about every day, whilst screeching invective at motorists who get justifiably annoyed at this quite suicidal behaviour.
(And I'll willingly include myself in with this, I'm not above criticism. The only thing I CAN say with honesty is that I've never run a light, gone on the path, or gone on the wrong side of the road, all of which I see morons doing just about every day, whilst screeching invective at motorists who get justifiably annoyed at this quite suicidal behaviour.
drimble he'd been white, he'd been black,
Wed 20 Apr 2011, 16:41,
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