It's an impossible subject to discuss on the internetand an equally difficult one to discuss in sensible company
the outcome tends to be 'you really do have to be a bit of a sadist to pick up a crayon'
(the outcome tends to be 'you really do have to be a bit of a sadist to pick up a crayon'
HappyToast Groat froth,
Mon 13 Jun 2011, 14:53,
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Ha! I have this conversation quite often.My partner is a graphic designer for a packaging company which is about as commercial as "art" is going to get but of course she draws and paints and photoshops many beautiful and skilful things too which make her no money at all. I have had one thing I made go viral and have had one thing I made stolen. The latter was a Flash game, not an image, I made which J2O nicked, stuck new graphics on but the background code was all mine. The annoying thing about it is I created the initial game as a free tutorial on how to write actiopnscript for flash games of that type. Artisits aren't the only ones being ripped off HT.
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Mon 13 Jun 2011, 15:16,
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I would include coders of games in "artists" (any creative person)it's generally a pointless activity to most, yet brings great pleasure to many, but monetarily is utterly worthless to most who feel piracy (of music, game code, images, whatever) perfectly acceptable no matter how much time and effort is put in to it.
yet someone sat at a desk wasting time playing solitaire/texting and hoping the boss doesn't see is worth well over the minimum wage.
it's a wacky world we live in and no mistake
(yet someone sat at a desk wasting time playing solitaire/texting and hoping the boss doesn't see is worth well over the minimum wage.
it's a wacky world we live in and no mistake
HappyToast Groat froth,
Mon 13 Jun 2011, 15:24,
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I cannot do anything but completely agree with your sentimentbut my coding a tutorial which was nicked isn't the same as what you have called "art". My personal definition of art is if it is offered as art I will open heartedly accept it as such. This has some advantages but also drawbacks, not least going to some truly awful "installations". But coding Flash games for a tutorial isn't offered as art, potential memes aren't offered as art. The bringing of pleasure and therefore commercial value is a different subject all together. Realising what we do may have monetary value, preferably before we post it and some other bastard makes all the money is a different thing and not really about art or artists.
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Mon 13 Jun 2011, 15:52,
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