So you'd be happy if any one of the Liberal Democrats manifesto promises had been implemented during the coalition?Because lots of them have you know.
I mean for fucks sake, do you really think you've have Vince Cable creating apprenticeships in a conservative government?
I think its a real shame that the press and people who don't know that much about what is actually happening in politics have buttfucked Clegg. Perhaps this does reflect a certain naive belief that people should act in the common good and take account of the wishes of the public, but you know, that's kind of what the Lib Dems have always been about.
Taking one in the arse for the good of the country pretty much sums up what being a lib dem is all about, you can achieve a lot of good in politics as long as you don't want the credit for it.
(I mean for fucks sake, do you really think you've have Vince Cable creating apprenticeships in a conservative government?
I think its a real shame that the press and people who don't know that much about what is actually happening in politics have buttfucked Clegg. Perhaps this does reflect a certain naive belief that people should act in the common good and take account of the wishes of the public, but you know, that's kind of what the Lib Dems have always been about.
Taking one in the arse for the good of the country pretty much sums up what being a lib dem is all about, you can achieve a lot of good in politics as long as you don't want the credit for it.
WormuIus,
Thu 16 Jun 2011, 16:24,
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Anyway I'm going to be busy for a few minsso have a political picture.
( WormuIus,
Thu 16 Jun 2011, 16:33,
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Maybe so, and I don't doubt they've done some good in reigning in some of the more esoteric Tory behind-the-scenes manipulationsBut it still shows political naïvety to end up the butt of all the bad press when every politician lives or dies by their press profile. Instead of raising the profile of the Lib Dems to raise their vote further in future, they're embarrasing themselves at every turn and showing they didn't deserve the share of the vote they got.
They only got a late boost in this election because of their high-profile promises on student fees inspiring new, young voters that they offered an alternative to the two-party race of old. Even in coalition, there was no need for them to go back on that particular promise as they had it in the agreement that they could abstain. Even Vince Cable could have gotten away with a yes vote if the others had stayed away, since he worked on the proposal. But Clegg still urged his party to vote in favour. Regardless of its financial or economic impact, that was the single biggest political disaster he could have made and he did it, and as a result we had riots on the streets of the capital. What a dickhead.
(They only got a late boost in this election because of their high-profile promises on student fees inspiring new, young voters that they offered an alternative to the two-party race of old. Even in coalition, there was no need for them to go back on that particular promise as they had it in the agreement that they could abstain. Even Vince Cable could have gotten away with a yes vote if the others had stayed away, since he worked on the proposal. But Clegg still urged his party to vote in favour. Regardless of its financial or economic impact, that was the single biggest political disaster he could have made and he did it, and as a result we had riots on the streets of the capital. What a dickhead.
joefish It's hard for thee to kick against the pricks,
Thu 16 Jun 2011, 16:39,
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Didn't Nicky describe AV as "A miserable little compromise" once?
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Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Thu 16 Jun 2011, 16:46,
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in comparison to a full PR system, yesit's a bit like half a sausage is a miserable little little compromise compared to a full meal. but i'd take if the choice were that or 'no meal'
on clegg, i think he fucked up badly. i think there was a chance a coalition could work and he wasn't doing it for "mwahahaha! lovely power!" reasons. but from that point on, he's got it so wrong the tories are probably pissing themselves laughing in private. nice move, nick. i probably won't be voting lib dem again for a bit
(on clegg, i think he fucked up badly. i think there was a chance a coalition could work and he wasn't doing it for "mwahahaha! lovely power!" reasons. but from that point on, he's got it so wrong the tories are probably pissing themselves laughing in private. nice move, nick. i probably won't be voting lib dem again for a bit
plentyofants more ghee, vicar?,
Thu 16 Jun 2011, 17:00,
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Claiming people who disagree with you are ignorant is at the very least patronisingThis is a humourous mesage board, not a political debating site, and as such I am willfully returning to the level of
HA HA NICK CLEGG'S A CUNT!
(HA HA NICK CLEGG'S A CUNT!
Wasp Box like a nervous random stranger at a glory hole,
Thu 16 Jun 2011, 16:48,
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^What she said^With added Nelson.
( Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob,
Thu 16 Jun 2011, 16:49,
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I didn't call you ignorantor anyone on here ignorant.
( WormuIus,
Thu 16 Jun 2011, 17:47,
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