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# but to be fair to manley
he also said 'he was a fantastic leader' (which is true, regrettable as it may be) and 'the national socialist party was nothing without him' (which is arguable, but has a good argument backing it) -- so he wasn't just some guy. i think the point is that without hitler there'd have been someone else and roughly the same thing could very well have happened. maybe not the rampant anti-semitism, but the expansionism, the war-mongering, and ultimately a war that seemed inevitable to some even back in 1918 when versailles was signed. (and jews were unpopular across most of europe, so the anti-semitism may well have come up too.)
(, Fri 17 Jun 2011, 20:53, archived)