There have always beenlarge social groups suffering in one way or another but the reaction to this situation doesn't follow a pattern of social expression, it appears to be opportunistic, 'safety in numbers' muppetry the likes of which has been created by a succession of enfranchising expansions in rights and expectations over the last century or so. To suggest that this type of situation isn't black and white is actually a little bit off target as it bears few of the hallmarks of popular uprisings the likes of which we have seen in the 'Arab spring' (but also ambling back through time to the Russian revolution) where there was a focus to the turmoil not merely a push to self serving anarchy amongst a small corps of the population.
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number5 has been fighting tramps and losing.,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:07,
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in your opinion, it's off target.I am simply suggesting an underlying problem, in my opinion. I don't think, due to the disorganised nature of the uprising, for one reason or another, that there will ever be a stated common point to the violence in order to draw parallels with the Arab spring. Social exclusion leads to a build up of anger over time and it is expressed in however a particular collective can/wish to. The problem is caused by social exclusion, therefore it is society's and the government's problem, they created this. I would contend that these people would not be motivated to violence and looting if they had been afforded the opportunities in life available to those who sit on a messageboard at 12:55 pontificating on such subjects.
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drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 0:55,
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Despite my rant belowA good part of me agrees with you to a point. But, as a person sitting on a messageboard at 12:55 doing just that, didn't you make your own opportunities? Are you not that person because of what you did and how you did it, rather than what The Man gave you? Why do you think it should be different for anyone else?
I will actively fight to continue to help people who need help, but at the same time I know from my own experience that there are a huge number of people shitting on my help, living on subsidised rents they don't need and haven't needed for 6 years for example. And I truly believe its those people, the ones who have had "rights" to shit on the help society gives them interfered with, that are the most aggrieved. The truly needy, the truly poor, are silent and forgotten as usual whilst all our attention and money is focussed on fighting, silencing, or pandering to the brats with a sense of entitlement.
(I will actively fight to continue to help people who need help, but at the same time I know from my own experience that there are a huge number of people shitting on my help, living on subsidised rents they don't need and haven't needed for 6 years for example. And I truly believe its those people, the ones who have had "rights" to shit on the help society gives them interfered with, that are the most aggrieved. The truly needy, the truly poor, are silent and forgotten as usual whilst all our attention and money is focussed on fighting, silencing, or pandering to the brats with a sense of entitlement.
Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere.,
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