'I see the looting as a symptom of the widespread anger at various problems in British society... and negative personal experiences with police etc.'
At what point, exactly, do you feel that these misunderstood darlings should take personal responsibility for being violent arsonists and opportunistic thieves? Even assuming those people cheerfully looting the high-value shops in their neighborhood actually subscribe to your point of view - which is by no means certain - their actions are not really contributing towards a solution.
It's kind of you to proffer a reason to their antisocial antics, some form of lofty justification. They, themselves, have demonstrated none - other than 'woo, free telly'. They're lucky to have you as their self-appointed spokesperson, mashing out a series of clichéd post-hoc rationales for their unforgivably shitty behavior.
You honestly think the cunts nicking TVs and tracksuits, burning random properties and cars, and stealing things from the pockets of fallen 'comrades' are doing it in order to protest health care standards, or any other specific item in your laundry list of sixth-form angst?
(At what point, exactly, do you feel that these misunderstood darlings should take personal responsibility for being violent arsonists and opportunistic thieves? Even assuming those people cheerfully looting the high-value shops in their neighborhood actually subscribe to your point of view - which is by no means certain - their actions are not really contributing towards a solution.
It's kind of you to proffer a reason to their antisocial antics, some form of lofty justification. They, themselves, have demonstrated none - other than 'woo, free telly'. They're lucky to have you as their self-appointed spokesperson, mashing out a series of clichéd post-hoc rationales for their unforgivably shitty behavior.
You honestly think the cunts nicking TVs and tracksuits, burning random properties and cars, and stealing things from the pockets of fallen 'comrades' are doing it in order to protest health care standards, or any other specific item in your laundry list of sixth-form angst?
Happy Phantom has been to Hastings, Brighton, and Eastbourne too,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 2:24,
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I'm suggesting it as a reason for the build up of angernot as a justification for the individuals involved.
Such social disorder is the fault of the government, make no mistake about it. I can understand people getting all angry about it and all "kill those fucking uneducated chav scum", but I think it's important to keep an eye on the real reasons, not justifications, reasons for why this is happening now. I didn't mean to sound like I sympathised with the rioters as such, I only meant to suggest that there is certainly a bigger picture than just "chavs being chavs".
(Such social disorder is the fault of the government, make no mistake about it. I can understand people getting all angry about it and all "kill those fucking uneducated chav scum", but I think it's important to keep an eye on the real reasons, not justifications, reasons for why this is happening now. I didn't mean to sound like I sympathised with the rioters as such, I only meant to suggest that there is certainly a bigger picture than just "chavs being chavs".
drbroon abloooobloobloo,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:34,
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I can only say to you what I say to everyoneSee how much the bigger picture matters to you when there are people trying to set fire to your home. This has literally been the case for some of my friends. The righteous anger of the poor, forgotten, blackberry owning, social media utilizing underclass eh? What the mainstream media is reporting becomes irrelevant when you're watching the bloke next door being beaten by kids wearing £300 trainers and designer clothing. Which they did not loot.
And yes, of course there are social problems and people with legitimate complaint, when aren't there? Personally if I have problems I sort them the fuck out rather than sitting around waiting for the government to do it for me and whingeing about the nanny state interfering with my life at the same time, whilst waiting around for a bunch of brain-dead thugs to use my malaise as an excuse to destroy people's lives and grab stuff so I can bleat about how that's the government's fault too.
Also its funny how the mainstream media are so establishment biased when it comes to reporting the riots. They were all so spot on about the cause of the financial crisis and it being solely the fault of bankers.
Massive double standards, the mainstream media.
(And yes, of course there are social problems and people with legitimate complaint, when aren't there? Personally if I have problems I sort them the fuck out rather than sitting around waiting for the government to do it for me and whingeing about the nanny state interfering with my life at the same time, whilst waiting around for a bunch of brain-dead thugs to use my malaise as an excuse to destroy people's lives and grab stuff so I can bleat about how that's the government's fault too.
Also its funny how the mainstream media are so establishment biased when it comes to reporting the riots. They were all so spot on about the cause of the financial crisis and it being solely the fault of bankers.
Massive double standards, the mainstream media.
Throat And Ice Pie I see dem tatties dere.,
Wed 10 Aug 2011, 10:57,
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