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# Hahahahaha!
I love the number of people with a demonstrable lack of understanding of relativity who are commenting on it.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:11, archived)
# Today is an entertaining day for the internet
Speaking as a genuine researcher in some aspects of relativistic physics, I find all this quite good fun.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:12, archived)
# it must be like watching cats trying to fight their reflection in a mirror!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:14, archived)
# Except that that's quite cute
The internet today is a bit like watching Big Brother contestants arguing over who has the highest IQ.

Someone at work just sent through an interesting comment -- if this result were true, the neutrinos from a supernova in 1987 would have been detected some four years before the light. They weren't, they were detected at roughly the same time.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:19, archived)
# see - that's so much more clever
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:20, archived)
# Which bit?
BB contestants arguing over the highest IQ? Or the comment about SN1987A? Because that was really smart. I wish I'd thought to do that.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:22, archived)
# the supernova bit
but I liked the BB analogy too.

You should buy some pants!
(I helped save b3ta! Griffin Saver Something, something, 2006, something., Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:26, archived)
# Pah
So the clever bit was the bit that wasn't mine :( I always knew I was a dunce

Sod pants. I'm gonna go commando from now on. At least I'll get my own seat on the train.

Also I'm off to the gym. Which will *guarantee* me my own seat on the train.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:29, archived)
# How do we know
the neutrinos would have been detected?
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:28, archived)
# we had neutrino detectors even back in the 80s
and we detected a surge in neutrinos around when the light from the supernova hit us

apparently in the paper today they point out that the neutrinos from sn1987a were a lot less energetic than the ones produced at cern. i doubt they draw any firm conclusions but i've not actually read the paper myself yet. i'll do that a bit later. it doesn't look like i'll get much coherent work done today.
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 11:31, archived)
# Fair enough.
Presumably not all neutrinos break the light barrier (if indeed any do) otherwise somebody would have noticed before now.

It'll be fascinating to see if anything comes of this.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan Yes I can hear you Clem Fandango, Fri 23 Sep 2011, 12:21, archived)