That doesn't make any sense what so ever!'scepticism beyond the bounds of reason'? what so that means I just have to accept any religion based on some unsubstantiated beliefs and the say so of a few historians? The Turin shroud was proven as a medieval fake, there is no body of Christ, his depiction is of a Caucasian male in the middle of Judaea!? There is no written transcript of his life outside of the bible. I'm sorry but to say I have no reason is just plain offensive! Also Maths is tangible as it's provable through testing, testing anybody can do.
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Mon 17 Oct 2011, 17:58,
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No it doesn't mean that at all,and there is a great deal of maths that has no physical application at all, but even if it did, that wouldn't be the proof of it. Maths is proved through pure logic. Pythagoras's theorem isn't proven by drawing lots of triangles and measuring them.
What it means is that you should accept statements about history based on the balance of evidence. The Bible counts as evidence. Arguments from ignorance are no good.
(What it means is that you should accept statements about history based on the balance of evidence. The Bible counts as evidence. Arguments from ignorance are no good.
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Mon 17 Oct 2011, 18:17,
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Accepting the Bible as evidence is like accepting that Marvel Comics is evidence that Superman existsThe writing of the Dead Sea Scrolls do not tally with the King James Bible or the Lindisfarne Gospels so where does the modern bible actually exist in history? Sorry if you think I'm too thick to understand your brilliant points of view but there we have it I'm just a stupid pleb go on call me fucking stupid again!
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Mon 17 Oct 2011, 18:24,
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Well no it isn't because we know Marvel comics are a deliberate fiction,whereas the Bible might not be entirely historically reliable because of the class of literature that it is, as well as how it was produced, but it nevertheless counts as evidence. Scholars argue about exactly what it is evidence of but there's no reason to reject it while we accept so much other literature from the period and earlier. Quite a lot of what we know about ancient history comes from what people wrote about it.
The King James Bible isn't a great translation of the Hebrew, although it has a certain charm. The Dead Sea Scrolls differ from the Masoretic text mostly only in very minor ways, and even the major differences are hardly contradictions. I couldn't tell you anything about the Lindisfarne Gospels off the top of my head. I shall make a note to look them up.
I don't know why you think I'm calling you thick, that's certainly not the intention. Neither is it my intention, for the record, to convert you to Christianity. I don't even know if I'm a Christian myself.
(The King James Bible isn't a great translation of the Hebrew, although it has a certain charm. The Dead Sea Scrolls differ from the Masoretic text mostly only in very minor ways, and even the major differences are hardly contradictions. I couldn't tell you anything about the Lindisfarne Gospels off the top of my head. I shall make a note to look them up.
I don't know why you think I'm calling you thick, that's certainly not the intention. Neither is it my intention, for the record, to convert you to Christianity. I don't even know if I'm a Christian myself.
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Mon 17 Oct 2011, 18:32,
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It ceratinly seems at every turn you have rubbished my point of view by saying stuff like"Arguments from ignorance are no good" and such like you don't say the words "You are stupid" but you imply it but at no point do you answer any of my doubts.
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