The police are certainly getting the blamebut to make such moves without consultation does seem odd. Maybe that is what is all about. Either way, the police seem damned if they do and damned if they don't. I'm not a massive fan But I'd rather have a UK policeman on my side than just about any other country.
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TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?,
Thu 27 Oct 2011, 0:43,
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again, i don't recall much about this and what you're saying is news to me.consultation with who? (not being argumentative, this is a genuine question as i don't know who would be consulted)
one would believe that after all this time, if there is wasn't any evidence to suggest they police may be culpable, we wouldn't be hearing anything about it.
again, i don't know the facts, so i'm just hypothesising.
whether the uk police are any better than any others is debatable.
of course there are many countries where police behaviour is more akin to mobsters or even facist storm troopers, but ask ian tomlinson's family how responsible and reasonable the british police are.
(one would believe that after all this time, if there is wasn't any evidence to suggest they police may be culpable, we wouldn't be hearing anything about it.
again, i don't know the facts, so i'm just hypothesising.
whether the uk police are any better than any others is debatable.
of course there are many countries where police behaviour is more akin to mobsters or even facist storm troopers, but ask ian tomlinson's family how responsible and reasonable the british police are.
real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Thu 27 Oct 2011, 1:15,
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I reallly don't know enough about itand even discussing it can get you in all sorts of trouble. I would have thought the police would consult the management of the stadium. After all; the police are actually guests inside UK venues paid for in part by them. Might not have been so back then.
Out of interest, what country do you think might have better police? The Canadians have cool hats and the Indians are a joy to watch on traffic control.
(Out of interest, what country do you think might have better police? The Canadians have cool hats and the Indians are a joy to watch on traffic control.
TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?,
Thu 27 Oct 2011, 1:26,
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i don't know if i could say categorically who has a better police forcebut my own limited experience and what i've seen in the news hasn't exactly endeared me to the uk police.
i think the thing to remember is what the role of the police is and the reality of what the police are for.
i'll try and pick this up again later if you like, but my boy wants to play hide n' seek,
so i'm off to hide inthe shower and read my book for 10 minutes
(i think the thing to remember is what the role of the police is and the reality of what the police are for.
i'll try and pick this up again later if you like, but my boy wants to play hide n' seek,
so i'm off to hide inthe shower and read my book for 10 minutes
real i'm not happy 'til you're not happy,
Thu 27 Oct 2011, 1:37,
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Okies!well past the time I should be in bed anyway.
( TheSundaeLunch I'm a fucking shrub, alright?,
Thu 27 Oct 2011, 1:47,
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From what I recall...The police made an unfortunate mistake. In theory they should have been better organised but it has to be remembered that the fences that the people were crushed against were a fairly new thing, brought in because of the rising problems with hooligans.
In short, it seems to have been one of those occasions where a little incompetence went a long way.
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Thu 27 Oct 2011, 5:53,
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In short, it seems to have been one of those occasions where a little incompetence went a long way.