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# True..
but you have to prove that the device is incapable of receiving streaming or broadcast media and that the console is also incapable of doing the same..
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 17:46, archived)
# anything that is capable of going online is capable of that,
I'm going to have to look up the law now because that would be insane.

EDIT: their website says
"You need to be covered by a valid TV Licence if you watch or record TV as it's being broadcast. This includes the use of devices such as a computer, laptop, mobile phone or DVD/video recorder."
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 17:47, archived)
# it is insane
the onus of responsibility is on the device owner not the BBC to prove you are using it that way..

been there with this already. =-(

edit:
for more info (though not complete)
www.tvlicensing.co.uk/check-if-you-need-one
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 17:49, archived)
# I'm on that site already,
haven't found anything about the burden of proof just yet, but in the old days all you needed to do was show you hadn't connected the areal or hadn't tuned it into any stations. I'm not sure how you'd prove it with a computer.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 17:58, archived)
# well..
maybe they're being nice now and just accepting our word for it =-D

though, experience tells a different story =-(
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 18:01, archived)
# yes it does..
we (in student house) were also told by MR TV Detector Van Guy, that since our TV (which had a PS3 with no net access) had an SCRT port on the back, capable of receiving broadcast signals, then we would have prove that it wasn't being used for that (e.g. soldering in the PS3 to the TV and removing the 2nd port).. and that we would have to prove our phones weren't being used for streaming media either (which they were obviously).

(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 17:57, archived)
# well he was talking out of his arse,
and any magistrate would have thrown that out of court. I suspect they're just bully boys sent in to put off chancers. I've had them round here, they just looked in the sitting room and went away.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 18:01, archived)
# want to move in?
we need you here!!! there's a spare room and everything!!

fridge space is limited, but I can move my homemade been soup to one side for you.

edit:
when I say "been soup", it was soup once, but is more of a congealed lump of vegetable conglomerate, which you can slice and microwave on toast!!
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 18:03, archived)
# you're really selling this place
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 18:11, archived)
# I'm glad you think so..
when can you move in?

I'll start moving the soup.
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 18:35, archived)
# as it's being broadcast
it comes up half an hour later on iplayer... iplayer is fine and free no license fee
(, Thu 1 Dec 2011, 18:00, archived)