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# ..........and tortured expressions?
(I use the word advisedly)
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Mon 19 Mar 2012, 13:45, archived)
# tortured?
(I helped save b3ta! Death is the Eternal I have not my ally, Mon 19 Mar 2012, 13:54, archived)
# Yes, they always look like they are being punished.
What is it you imagine you are doing to them?
(I helped save b3ta! edjogs Collared doves are shit., Mon 19 Mar 2012, 15:09, archived)