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# in my day, ambient occlusion and indirect illumination were the stuff of dreams
(I helped save b3ta! taters Bah weep grahnah weep ninibong, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 13:59, archived)
# I remember bump maps (not normal maps) being exciting
and taking 2 hours to render on a cube
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Thu 11 Oct 2012, 14:05, archived)