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# It's a massively damaging way of attempting to shore up his leadership position in any case.
(I helped save b3ta! barryheadwound Mul-ti-pass? Multipass!, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:37, archived)
# There's probably a good case in that, yes
(I helped save b3ta! boris the spider, Wed 23 Jan 2013, 12:37, archived)