Speaking as a dyed-in-the-wool Tolkien nerdI think it's stretching it to say that the entire trilogy is an allegory for industrialisation, but it's certainly true that the Scouring of the Shire was about the industrialisation of the Midlands countryside and the loss of what Tolkien (as a wealthy, educated man) viewed as a 'better way of life'.
He was also open about the Shire being at roughly the latitude of Oxford and the Balfalas being roughly around Sicily, I think it was, or perhaps it was the Bay of Naples.
(He was also open about the Shire being at roughly the latitude of Oxford and the Balfalas being roughly around Sicily, I think it was, or perhaps it was the Bay of Naples.
boris the spider,
Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:08,
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I didn't say the entire trilogy was I said the end was ;)
HappyToast Groat froth,
Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:14,
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Totally true :)but saintsandy said the whole trilogy was; I was agreeing with your more limited take on things.
Except the films. I like the films. Except the middle of Two Towers. That can fuck off. Also the terrible CGI of Legolas on an elephant's back. Seriosuly, I can do better than that and I'm an idiot at animation. Pah.
(Except the films. I like the films. Except the middle of Two Towers. That can fuck off. Also the terrible CGI of Legolas on an elephant's back. Seriosuly, I can do better than that and I'm an idiot at animation. Pah.
boris the spider,
Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:17,
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Shelob section was ... alright ... but Frodo and Sam's escape from the tower by the Black Gate was ... awful. Best bit IHMO was Christopher Lee as Saruman. Legend.
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Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:17,
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actually i don't remember frodo and sam's escape from the towerwhich doesn't say much for it, i guess
( boris the spider,
Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:18,
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really? I thought he was pretty poor, he could phone that hoary old routine in :D HappyToast Groat froth,
Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:20,
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legend, though, inneee? Suppose I have got a bit of Dracular horn on at the moment. Was alright in SW ep.II too ... and those filums WERE shit.
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Fri 30 Aug 2013, 18:28,
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:O Jeez, he was even more wooden and depressing in thatwaving a couple of neon tubes about and getting his head chopped off by whiny anakin. Awful.
( HappyToast Groat froth,
Fri 30 Aug 2013, 19:24,
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