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# It's a similar thing with Fox in the States...
They are perennially incapable of underpinning any of their views with reason or evidence, but it doesn't stop them spewing forth their bile to all and sundry.

There's a post on /links which indicates that the Mail have renewed their onslaught against the BBC, presumably to try and pull the teeth from Question Time and things like this.

They had someone on Radio 4 this morning who had the neck to try and paint the Mail as victims in all this.
(, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 11:31, archived)
# The bitterst pill to swallow is the amount of money they've raised via ad revenue, this week.
Grime pays.
(, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 11:47, archived)
# That's it - the only way to actually hurt the Mail is by damaging readership or ad revenue, neither of which will be significantly affected by this...
The interesting thing for me is that this will be seriously worrying Cameron and co. The last thing that the Tories need just now is for Ed Miliband to be seen to grow a pair of balls. Half their election campaign is centred on continuing to paint him as a bland nobody with no stomach for a fight, and now their core supporter is providing precisely the battleground that will enable Ed to really engage with otherwaise apathetic left-leaning voters.
(, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 11:56, archived)
# Any backfire on The Mail can only be a good thing.
(, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 12:02, archived)
# The problem in that respect
is the vast majority of their online traffic comes from the USA, who couldn't give two shits about all this, and probably support them because they used the 'S' word.

Everyone in Britain could stop going to the website and it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference.

The hard version, however, is still bafflingly popular and will be harder to stop.
The NotW was ultimately done in by advertisers being scared off by the Milly Dowler story.
The Milliband thing doesn't have quite the same abjectness to it, as advertisers know the vast majority of readers won't care about it, and will probably agree with it.
(, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 12:24, archived)
# Which is more or less the point I'm trying to make - nil effect on The Mail, but unintentional splashback on the Conservatives.
(, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 12:56, archived)
# I realised
I replied after only reading the first couple of words of your post and making up the rest in my head

sorry
(, Fri 4 Oct 2013, 13:17, archived)