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# For a game that stars a veteran bank robber, a young gangster and a lunatic....
....there's an depressing focus on tennis and yoga.

As far as I'm concerned, it's JUST like GTA4. It's a very pretty, wonderfully realised virtual world.....and fuck all to do in it.
If you want a propper open world game, that's actually FUN to play, and lets you complete missions in as imaginative ways as you please (as opposed to the rigid 'do it this way or we'll fail you' missions of GTA5) pick up Mercenaries 2 or Saints Row 2.

Here's the Mercenaries 2 trailer.
Tell me that doesn't look like more fun than anything you're permitted to do in GTA5.
(, Tue 8 Oct 2013, 14:03, archived)
# Think we need a new classification for GTA games.
Because although they're open world in feel, once you initiate a mission you're on a pretty linear path until its completion. I don't have a problem with this (at least not now that they've finally introduced checkpoints in missions), as the structure of the missions is really well planned. A bit like Fable in that respect.

I'm finding it the most playable iteration since Vice City - I think the skills dimension to it adds to the narrative of the game by steering you towards different characters for different roles rather than meaning your character can't keep a car in a straight line until you've spent 18 hours arbitrarily driving round the map until you've developed the skill. Pretty much everything that made the last one unplayable for me has been turned on its head.

Firm fan!
(, Tue 8 Oct 2013, 14:18, archived)
# ^This^
Although, I ALSO have Mercenaries which IS great fun (looks a little creaky round the edges now though)
GTA's quality just shines through, lovin' it! :)
(, Tue 8 Oct 2013, 14:21, archived)
# I am with you 100%
Best GTA since VC, fixed just about everything that was wrong with IV and is fuck loads of fun with plenty to do
(, Tue 8 Oct 2013, 14:28, archived)
# There is a classification for that: "Falsely advertised"
They said you'd be able to set up you own criminal empire by taking control of and running nefarious enterprises across the city.
They said there would be a virtual narcotics trade that you could interact with.
It was the promise of stuff like that which sold the game to me. Had they said "You can play tennis and golf" I wouldn't have bothered picking it up.
(, Tue 8 Oct 2013, 15:05, archived)
# I didn't track the development that closely.
Sounds a bit like that lobby who started sending death threats to the Fable production team because they couldn't actually see the trees growing on screen!

Are there not bits and bobs like that that crop up once you start investing in some of the properties? Admittedly it would still be far more peripheral to the game than those assertions would lead you to believe, but what title doesn't hype up its potential pre-release? I've just started looking at some of the property investments and it does seem that some of them spawn little side missions..?
(, Tue 8 Oct 2013, 15:44, archived)