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# no
this is a coding machine...

(Esteban, Tue 12 Feb 2002, 3:45, archived)
# Oh...
... corrected and sitting.
(I helped save b3ta! blah, Tue 12 Feb 2002, 3:51, archived)
# I certainly
don't look like that...
(I helped save b3ta! flibz, Tue 12 Feb 2002, 3:56, archived)
# strictly
that is a ciphering machine.
</geek>
(I helped save b3ta! chthonic, Tue 12 Feb 2002, 3:55, archived)
# surely
cipher is a form of "code"
(Esteban, Tue 12 Feb 2002, 3:56, archived)
# related, but not the same
code: replacing whole words/phrases with other symbols

cipher: replacing letters with other symbols regardless of the word structure

(god, I hope I've got that the right way around)
(I helped save b3ta! chthonic, Tue 12 Feb 2002, 4:06, archived)
# But isn't it also
a decoding machine, which must cast some doubt on the 'coding only' school of thought?
(I helped save b3ta! Not Pineapple anymore, Tue 12 Feb 2002, 6:00, archived)