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# it doesn't work
and never will.
for me at least.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:26, archived)
# beagle was far cooler looking than the american one
theirs looks like something off robot wars
(I helped save b3ta! lemony, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:27, archived)
# well, what were you hoping for
it only cost $820,000,000.00
there was nothing in the budget for aesthetics.
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:29, archived)
# isn't that like
many many times more than beagle cost?
(I helped save b3ta! lemony, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:32, archived)
# Yes.
the Beagle budget could probably fit in a shoe-box in 1-quid coins. so good for them, because the Americans always spend way more, and generally get less bang for their buck.
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:35, archived)
# however we must also consider the fact
that it was shit and didn't work.
(I helped save b3ta! dipdapdop, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:37, archived)
# yeah. but it didn't blow up
which is something in the way of progress by shuttle standards.
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:39, archived)
# to be honest i don't care
i think anything that gets people interested in science and technology and encourages research is good... and i think elegance is a good thing in scientfic endeavor
(I helped save b3ta! lemony, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:39, archived)
# yep
otherwise it's guaranteed to go wrong..

but exciting little robots that work are the things that get people excited, not rock analysers that fail.
(I helped save b3ta! dipdapdop, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:41, archived)
# some of the ESA's projects have been quite successful
their satellite launch record, for instance, is very good. and see my note about the budget discrepancy above...
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:43, archived)
# well...true
but the thing is, space research is actually a very bad way to spend research funding. it's low-return, especially manned flights. i've no particular opposition to the automated stuff, and of course satellites are very useful. continuing manned exploration is rather pointless.
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:41, archived)
# as far as americans are concerned,
robot wars is cool.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:29, archived)
# the american half of me
disagrees. but i may* be in the minority.

*almost certainly am
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:31, archived)
# americans who know of other countries
aren't proper americans.and therefore traitors.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:33, archived)
# fuck
am i to be shot in the morning then? or are they just going to ship me to Guantanamo?
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:35, archived)
# you'll be there indefinitely.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:37, archived)
# but i have rights!
oh, no i don't, this is Dubya's America, never mind.
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:40, archived)
# me either
we're defective
if we were animals, they'd take us out the back and shoot us.
(rednc, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:28, archived)
# yay!
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Sand GOBLIN ^popular page dis, Tue 6 Jan 2004, 1:29, archived)