without starting a massdebate about this. consider the following quote:<rant>
'If it were God's will that these boys be man-lovers, I could accept that,' says Polstom.
Now im no god lover (i think all religion is total crap) but isn't everything gods will ? When some innocent person gets murdered it's always 'gods will', if theres a war its 'gods will' basically when anything happens its 'gods will' or 'he has a higher purpose'.. 'he knows what he's doing!' and so on. So why, when he see's his kid turning gay why does he not believe that its gods will as well ? Simply, the 'gods will' excuse is used to try and console yourself when bad things happen.
'Don't feel bad your wife got brain cancer! it's gods will!'
'mmmm then i guess it's ok - after all, god must have a purpose for her in heaven! praise the lord!'
but no, its
'your son is turning gay'
'shit, gods clearly got nothing to do with this, it cant be gods will, god wouldnt want to make my son homosexual - it doesn't make sense! no no no, its not god at all....'
I HATE YOU GOD LOVERS, YOU CONTRADICTORY BASTARDS
</rant>
whew i feel better for that :)
('If it were God's will that these boys be man-lovers, I could accept that,' says Polstom.
Now im no god lover (i think all religion is total crap) but isn't everything gods will ? When some innocent person gets murdered it's always 'gods will', if theres a war its 'gods will' basically when anything happens its 'gods will' or 'he has a higher purpose'.. 'he knows what he's doing!' and so on. So why, when he see's his kid turning gay why does he not believe that its gods will as well ? Simply, the 'gods will' excuse is used to try and console yourself when bad things happen.
'Don't feel bad your wife got brain cancer! it's gods will!'
'mmmm then i guess it's ok - after all, god must have a purpose for her in heaven! praise the lord!'
but no, its
'your son is turning gay'
'shit, gods clearly got nothing to do with this, it cant be gods will, god wouldnt want to make my son homosexual - it doesn't make sense! no no no, its not god at all....'
I HATE YOU GOD LOVERS, YOU CONTRADICTORY BASTARDS
</rant>
whew i feel better for that :)
DaWolfey,
Mon 4 Mar 2002, 6:42,
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you are telling me...I was brought up a catholic till I was old enough to see through it all..
As far as I can gather, if you are good you go to Heaven. If you are bad, you go to Hell (a place in south east london I believe :).
But if God is All Forgiving, why is there a Hell? i missed something somewhere..
As the now legendary Bill Hicks said "Does the devil exist? Really? Then tell me, what could oppose Gods will? Nothing!!!"
What a Wunch of Bankers.
(As far as I can gather, if you are good you go to Heaven. If you are bad, you go to Hell (a place in south east london I believe :).
But if God is All Forgiving, why is there a Hell? i missed something somewhere..
As the now legendary Bill Hicks said "Does the devil exist? Really? Then tell me, what could oppose Gods will? Nothing!!!"
What a Wunch of Bankers.
Hugo Rune,
Mon 4 Mar 2002, 6:50,
archived)
if you want a few views on the subject,do a googly for something like "problem of evil".
it's a bit harsh comparing homosexuality to brain cancer tho...
(it's a bit harsh comparing homosexuality to brain cancer tho...
spacefish bong!,
Mon 4 Mar 2002, 6:54,
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i supposeit was a bit harsh, but i think it illustrates the point well :)
This small quote sums it all up nicely i think:
God is all-loving and all powerful. Evil exists in the world. Therefore either: God cannot suppress evil, in which case He is not all-powerful; or: God does not will to suppress evil, in which case He is not all-loving.1 In either case, God does not exist or is misunderstood.
(This small quote sums it all up nicely i think:
God is all-loving and all powerful. Evil exists in the world. Therefore either: God cannot suppress evil, in which case He is not all-powerful; or: God does not will to suppress evil, in which case He is not all-loving.1 In either case, God does not exist or is misunderstood.
DaWolfey,
Mon 4 Mar 2002, 7:16,
archived)