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may be of help bigdave
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Fri 13 Sep 2002, 15:05, archived)
# and this
may also come in useful
www.sladesworld.com/page1surg.html
www.victorias-closet.com/repair/
(I helped save b3ta! Manic can teach you the secret of fire, Fri 13 Sep 2002, 15:13, archived)