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# As far as I know
only the American government deny science

/searches for the link


EDIT: found one abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory?id=517770
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 5:16, archived)
# Islamic governments deny science.
The following are excerpts from an interview with Dr. Abd Al-Baset Al-Sayyed of the Egyptian National Research Center. Al-Majd TV aired this interview on January 16, 2005

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: The centrality [of Mecca] has been proven scientifically. How? When they traveled to outer space and took pictures of the earth, they saw that it is a dark, hanging sphere. The man said, "Earth is a dark hanging sphere – who hung it?"

Interviewer: Who said that?

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: [Neil] Armstrong. Armstrong was basically trying to say: Allah is the one who hung it. They discovered that Earth emits radiation, and they wrote about this on the web. They left the item there for 21 days, and then they made it disappear.

Interviewer: Why did they make it disappear?

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: There was intent there…

Interviewer: So it may be said that this suppression of information was significant.

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: It was very significant, since…the Ka'ba [in Mecca]… They said it emits radiation. This radiation is short-wave.

When they discovered this radiation, they started to zoom in, and they found that it emanates from Mecca – and, to be precise, from the Ka'ba.

Interviewer: My God!!

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: It was said…

Interviewer: Does this radiation have an effect?

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: They found that this radiation is infinite. When they reached Mars and began to take pictures, they found that the radiation continues beyond. They said that the wavelength known to us… or rather the shortness of the wavelength known to us… This radiation had a special characteristic: It is infinite, and I believe that the reason is that this radiation connects the [earthly] Ka'ba with the celestial Ka'ba.

Imagine that you are the North Pole and I am the South Pole – in the middle there's what is called the magnetic equilibrium zone. If you place a compass there, the needle won't move.

Interviewer: You mean that the pull is equal from both sides?

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: Yes, and that's why it's called zero-magnetism zone, since the magnetic force has no effect there. That's why if someone travels to Mecca or lives there, he lives longer, is healthier, and is less affected by Earth's gravity. That's why when you circle the Ka'ba, you get charged with energy.

Interviewer: Allah be praised.

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: Yes, this is a fact.
This is a scientific fact…

Interviewer: Because you are distant from…

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: Earth's magnetic fields have no effect on you in this case.

There's a study that proves that the black basalt rocks in Mecca are the oldest rocks in the world. This is the truth.

Interviewer: The oldest rocks? Yes. Has this been proved scientifically?

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: It's been scientifically proven, and the study has been published.

Interviewer: They took basalt rocks from Mecca…

Dr. 'Abd Al-Baset Sayyid: …Basalt rocks from Mecca, and investigated the places where they were formed.

In the British Museum there are three pieces of the black stone [from the Ka'ba] …and they said that this rock didn't come from our solar system.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 5:31, archived)
#
cock
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 5:39, archived)
# It certainly is a load of cock
but in a real theocracy, like Iran or pre-liberation Afghanistan, you can be executed for daring to disagree with it.

That's why democracies like America are vastly superior to theocracies such as those.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 5:49, archived)
# Well
suffice to say each country has it's lunatics. That's completely different to what we're talking about though.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 5:42, archived)
# No it isn't
because this particular lunatic is a member of the Egyptian National Research Center, and represents a maistream of thought in the Islamic world.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 5:50, archived)
# Take a look at some of the
"extreme right wing christian research" it's just as laughable.

Equally... the person in that interview, Dr. Abd Al-Baset wouldn't be classified as the most levelheaded of people, his comments seem to be common to those of religious right-wing islamic groups.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 6:12, archived)
# Yes, but
"extreme right wing christian research" doesn't form the basis of science in America, or any western democracy. It's just a bunch of fringe loonies.

Whereas extreme loony Islamic science is mainstream in countries like Egypt and Syria, and compulsory in countries like Iran.

Again, there is a massive difference between Western democracies and Islamic theocracies or despotisms.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 6:16, archived)
# I'm not convinced of this yet
although i've heard it claimed several times on the news... have you got any solid proof that "extreme loony Islamic science" is indeed mainstream?

The international students I know from several countries including iran, indonesia and quatar claim that this is not what they were taught back at home.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 6:25, archived)
# I don't have anything handy
so I'll have to pass on that one for now.
(, Sun 27 Feb 2005, 6:53, archived)