Seems to me what you have in mindin that people will refrain from having children due to being continually hungry.
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Sun 19 Jun 2005, 13:51,
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not quiteits more an invisible natural unharmful process, not a choice.
Remember that food does grow without the need to farm it, and growns in abundance if we would to let it...
the difference is that with the advent of free food, mankind would not be forced into a way of life that only the elite few benefit from, the majority of people would have the choice to live freely. To with hold food in a culture is not a free society, (no mater how many advert items you can buy)
The world would not stop either, artists would still create, scientists would still science.. etc etc... but the people that are in jobs they hate because the HAVE to do that , would be able to do something they like to make them happy and would not be forced to feed the consuming monster of our culture.
Our culture is forcing the human species down a route that is unnatural for us becuase the majority of people are forced into things they dont want to do.
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Sun 19 Jun 2005, 14:01,
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Remember that food does grow without the need to farm it, and growns in abundance if we would to let it...
the difference is that with the advent of free food, mankind would not be forced into a way of life that only the elite few benefit from, the majority of people would have the choice to live freely. To with hold food in a culture is not a free society, (no mater how many advert items you can buy)
The world would not stop either, artists would still create, scientists would still science.. etc etc... but the people that are in jobs they hate because the HAVE to do that , would be able to do something they like to make them happy and would not be forced to feed the consuming monster of our culture.
Our culture is forcing the human species down a route that is unnatural for us becuase the majority of people are forced into things they dont want to do.
...And heres the thing i object to the most
" Remember that food does grow without the need to farm it, and growns in abundance if we would to let it... "
It simply not true that without agriculture enough food would grow - agriculture is sustainable, wild growth, not.
Are you saying europe would be better of completly covered in forests?
Just you try going into a wood and living of what is there.
Hunter gathering can suppost only a small poulation, a population reached 13,000 years ago.
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Sun 19 Jun 2005, 14:09,
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" Remember that food does grow without the need to farm it, and growns in abundance if we would to let it... "
It simply not true that without agriculture enough food would grow - agriculture is sustainable, wild growth, not.
Are you saying europe would be better of completly covered in forests?
Just you try going into a wood and living of what is there.
Hunter gathering can suppost only a small poulation, a population reached 13,000 years ago.
If the part about "abundance" is truethen what he's proposing is not an alternative to agriculture in terms of the amount of food produced. But if the part about abundance is not true and hunter-gathering produces less food than agriculture, people will be hungry. Unless he conceives advances in hunter-gathering that allow for increased food production and population expansion...
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Sun 19 Jun 2005, 14:14,
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hmim not proposing an instant change, that would be rediculous,
BUT if people started to realise how bad this situation really is, and is going to be in 20 years, we can start to prepare ourselves for it,
make the crash more a gentle bump
if food didnt grow naturally in abundance, no life would ever have existed...
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Sun 19 Jun 2005, 15:12,
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BUT if people started to realise how bad this situation really is, and is going to be in 20 years, we can start to prepare ourselves for it,
make the crash more a gentle bump
if food didnt grow naturally in abundance, no life would ever have existed...
hmmyour only pointing at a forest that u recognize as one free of human food growing, one that has been terraformed.
Agricultural cultures are NOT sustainable, it require CONSTANT growth and expansion,, this is the reason it does not work, we can not expand and grow forever .. something we do not have the ability to do on a little round planet.
Your asuming that mankind HAD to start farming, we didnt, check the story of Cain and Able, when we started it...
Europe would be infinitely beter off if things were allowed to grow and move freely about...
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Sun 19 Jun 2005, 15:19,
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Agricultural cultures are NOT sustainable, it require CONSTANT growth and expansion,, this is the reason it does not work, we can not expand and grow forever .. something we do not have the ability to do on a little round planet.
Your asuming that mankind HAD to start farming, we didnt, check the story of Cain and Able, when we started it...
Europe would be infinitely beter off if things were allowed to grow and move freely about...