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# Flash!!!

Use any other program and you will get cancer
of the clicky finger.
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 16:57, archived)
# I'm a newbie to flash ( only loaded it once for a quick look )
but can you add layers and trace with flash? Interesting if you can as I have Macromedia Studio 8 sat here doing nothing.
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 16:58, archived)
# yep - you can do all the layer stuff
tracing is a bit... odd, unless you just do freehand tracing

have a bash with it and see how it goes
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:04, archived)
# Yes
you can add layers and trace but I don't recomend it for purely making still images. If you got studio then I assume freehand came with it, in which case I'd use that.
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:04, archived)
# no freehand
although it's easy to get. I have Dreamweaver, Flash Professional, Fireworks, Contribute, and FlashPaper in Studio 8.
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:11, archived)
# what on earth is flash paper?
*nips to google*

edit: seems interesting, but it won`t let me see any of the examples since flash player 7 (mx2004 version) isn`t bloody good enough, and out of principle they can fuck off :)
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:14, archived)
# Don't know
but contact me privately if you require instructions on where to steal it from.
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:16, archived)
# pfft
I was gay and bought studio 2004mx - was considering quitting the job and freelancing doing web sites and back end programming and stuff, but in the end I stuck with working for THE MAN
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:18, archived)
# If you can wait until
the Man Utd match goes off ( because I am streaming it from ESPN China for my dad ) you may get me on MSN and I'll send you Flash8 pro and a serial number via MSN if you like. 110MB @ 55Kb/s max.

Edit:/ doh what am I saying? Just download the trial yourself and I'll give you a serial number, they have more bandwidth than me.
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:22, archived)
# you`re a bad man
ta for the offer, but I`ll stick with the legit copy so I can e-mail Macromedia regularly and tell them that their software is flakey shite
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:24, archived)
# I'm only half a bad man.
I buy all my software legit mainly for the support but I am also an old fashioned socialist and believe in sharing what I have with others if they can't afford them or think that food is more important. I make no apologies for this and will probably get done again ( was fined in 1999 for distributing abandonware, wankers don't care these days )
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:27, archived)
# I've trying out Flash 8
and I see little difference, except that it
allows you to trace jpg and gifs without
converting the to bmps.
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:24, archived)
# it has blur effects in it I think
but they may be in mx2004 ... as you may have seen, I`m not a flash expert :)

dreamweaver is quite handy though, so for the cost of the two apps, it was cheaper just to buy the studio (he keeps telling himself to justify the bloody price)
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:26, archived)
# damn, you're right.
I hadn't even noticed.

"only works on text, movie clips and buttons"
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:34, archived)
# Yeah. Once you get used to it,
it is great for quick and dirty drawing.
Then you can export it as a png and add
blur effects or whatever in photoshop.

If you're a purist, I suppose Illustrator
or FreeHand is better.
(, Sun 11 Dec 2005, 17:09, archived)