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# I think a dozen or so mad, beardy Jews around 30AD
had something to do with it.

Or rather, the early Roman Catholic Church around 200-400 AD, if we're talking the specific day.

Or rather the druidic faith approx 6000BC-300AD if we're talking about the midwinter festival.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:26, archived)
# bloody pagans
usually, they were literally bloody
(, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:27, archived)
# *Draws sacrificial knife*
*Dons white robe*

Right, this one's for the altar, lads, he knows too much.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:33, archived)
#
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in the 4thC a.d. when embracing the christian faith by re-inventing the figure of Jesus as the son of god from being previously one of many saviour prophets in jewish history ( that's the 'messiah' word ) was the only way to maintain control of the populace. The only reason for christmas was the fact that the pagans told him to fuck off if he thought they were giving up saturnalia, so he said 'hey, let's just make that a christian festival eh?' Bingo, pagans stayed pissed up on December and the Romans went about compiling the bible keeping all the bits that suited tem and burning the rest. It's all in a history book somewhere.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:34, archived)
# Hmmm
I've heard this opinion before but have yet to see any compelling evidence of it
(beyond the works of Dan Brown of course)

I suspect that if it's true the RC church would have done enough of a whitewash job by now to make such theories impossible to substantiate
(, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:40, archived)
# I thought it was pretty
Much accepted. There is no doubt that Saturnalia was the December pagan festival previous to Christmas, there is no doubt that the bible was finally fixed in it's modern format under the rule of and by a comittee formed by emperor Constantine and has remained similar since 450ad ( apart from whatever the Catholic Church nade King James leave out when he gave an English version to the populace taking the power from the church )
Christianity did not come to the Romans proper until around this time and took a further 400 years to make it to England. I assumed all this was fact as it's written in many different papers.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 18:52, archived)
# As a keen amateur
theologian, I concurr.
(, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 19:00, archived)
# It's the idea that Jesus was not considered the son of god
before this time that is unconfirmed
(, Tue 12 Dec 2006, 19:26, archived)