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# Sorry, that was snarky of me
I shouldn't jump into these arguments if I don't enjoy them. OK: they don't experience pain in a morally relevant way, any more than a robot (equipped with nerve pathways) experiences pain. This is because they don't really think (and, come to that, don't have any morals or compassion).
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:16, archived)
# 'They don't experience pain in a morally relevant way'.
Could you explain this to me, please?

As far as I'm concerned I would respect anyone a hell of a lot more if they just came out and said 'I enjoy fox hunting because I enjoy killing foxes' over trying to justify it through convoluted moral standpoints.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:47, archived)
# Imagine you'd built a robot that reacts to damage because it receives signals from sensors.
Do you give it rights and pity just because it reacts?
I wish it wasn't necessary to defend hunting morally, too.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 11:08, archived)