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# wankers! (excuse the words, but this is a B3ta icon we're talking about!)

The government has just backed a massive cull of badgers in the UK due to their role in spreading of bovine TB.
Science (am fact) has shown that culling badgers will NOT stop the spread by a long shot, it may even somehow be counter productive.
Proper tending of livestock, testing and surveillance, or, amazingly, giving the cows oral vaccinations against the disease are far more successful than dramatically reducing another species.
If you are in any way connected to councils, important people, the media, whatever, feel free to stand up and shout about this as it sounds to me like another smokescreen for people getting compensation and cash for doing not much at all about a problem.

When Leicester council are about to spend 1.7million protecting a pond because its got a newt in it, I can't see how risking the erradication of lovely, lovely, B3ta friendly badgers is in any way justifiable.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 8:56, archived)
# although I'm a long way away
I support this protest.
(k3b/-\b Peace man., Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:01, archived)
# One persons loss is another persons profit
Reminds self to invest in a new Fur Coat
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:01, archived)
# I totally agree!
What a bunch of c**ts!
(I helped save b3ta! XLVII .uk, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:01, archived)
# [philosophy in a nutshell!
;?P ]
(DrZaarlon Witchspace To Ra!, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:03, archived)
# let me out!
its dark and smells of nuts
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:18, archived)
# The bastards *shakes fist*
Some farmers seem quite happy to pump their animals full of hormones so vaccinating them agains bovine TB should not be such a big deal shirley?
/townie who knows little about the countryside blog
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:04, archived)
# Nah,
Vaccination means we can not easily tell if a
heard is infected or not.
Which means we can't export live animals.
Which is bad.

....this place is turning into the pissing moral maze.
(I helped save b3ta! Letum Your Ad here £2.40, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:07, archived)
# This is why we should kill everything
just to be on the safe side.
(I helped save b3ta! M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:13, archived)
# Pfft!
And I love it when someone complains about what 'this place is turning into'.
(I helped save b3ta! Geoff the Clownfish You know Myra, some people might think you're cute, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:21, archived)
#
More of this sort of thing!
(I helped save b3ta! M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:23, archived)
# You couldn't make it up.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:23, archived)
# Exporting live animals is cruel
Just so they can have their throats slit.

If muslims and jews need their meat to be halaal or kosher (by slitting the animals' throats) let them do it in their own countries ffs.
/more townie who knows little about such things blog
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:13, archived)
# Is killing an animal by cutting its throat any worse than killing it some other way?
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:15, archived)
# Yes
Most pig places don't stun anymore with electricity, they lower a batch of animals on a platform into a CO2 pit so they asphyxiate. Much better!
(I helped save b3ta! M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:16, archived)
# I believe it's a slower death
TBH I haven't eaten meat for 23 years and find the idea abhorrent but I tend not to evangelise about it nor point fingers at those who do.
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:18, archived)
# give me back my bacon sandwich!!
*jumps*
i can't reach it!!
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:21, archived)
# You bacon sandwich is safe from me
honest!
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:23, archived)
# =D
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:26, archived)
# This.
But only 5 years.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:24, archived)
# You are probably a young whippersnapper
whereas I am quite old ;)
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:29, archived)
# I wish that were true.
My whipsnapping days be over. What with me being in the fourth decade of my life.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:00, archived)
# 14 years since I ate red meat!!
:D
(I helped save b3ta! XLVII .uk, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:35, archived)
# Indeed
but then shipping live animals around the country is pretty shitty too. My local slaughterhouse has a queue of pig trucks stuffed to the gills waiting outside the gate for their turn to drop off.
(I helped save b3ta! M3rx likes the Asian ladies, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:16, archived)
# ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that explains one hell of alot
as to why entire herd are killed instead of giving them a simple bit of medicine.

Fuck me, it's worse than I thought. We should stop selling abroad then, fend for ourselves only!
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:14, archived)
# RON PAULLLLLLLLL
(I helped save b3ta! The Coast Of Yemen, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:16, archived)
# I don't understand,
can a herd be both vaccinated and infected at the same time?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:44, archived)
# I'd like to play devil's advocate here,
but this seems a bit too pointless. There's a vaccine and they're not using it?

Why does the government not subsidise it so that the farmers aren't out of pocket?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:05, archived)
# I AM THE WORST DEVIL'S ADVOCATE EVER.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:06, archived)
# and it was a shite film
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:06, archived)
# I hear your hourly rate is outrageous
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:07, archived)
# I receive outrage as a payment.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:10, archived)
# my vague understanding of the reasoning behind not vaccinating
is that if we jab animals, we somehow admit we have a problem and our livestock is contaminated
with badness, which means the export market for beefy stuff dries up.
strikes me if we stop importing beefy and eat it all here the problem is solved cos we wouldn't have any left over to export. also the badgers get to live. and we save a few bob shipping stuff all over the place.

or something.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:12, archived)
# Beef exports are still banned outside the EU
UK Beef hasn't been allowed here (South Africa) for years.

I abhor the whole meat market but I believe that the biggest problem with spreading of diseases is the fact that abbatoirs are centralised these days and not slaughtered close to where they were reared.

Don't massive supermarket chains insist that animals are slaughtered at their own abbatoirs that are often located at the other end of the country from the originating farm?
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:16, archived)
# didn't know that about uk beef
seems rather odd, given that all of our beef is nice and new and pretty healthy, we culled all the old stuff a few years back.
ultimately this whole nonsence, as mr toast pointed out, is about saving a few quid and bugger all to do with animal welfare or concern with anything other than someone's bottom line.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:23, archived)
# Money talks. Stop buying it.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:25, archived)
# There was a foot and mouth outbreak last year in Surrey
which cause MASSIVE problems with all sorts of products.
I import food and it was amazing what was banned from LEAVING the UK.
Heinz sponge puddings! (contain milk products).
Anything that contained a certain percentage of milk products. No Ambrosia creamed rice either.

(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:28, archived)
# no rice pudding, that's an outrage.
it does seem rather bizzare that you in south africa need to import something as basic as rice pud, notwithstanding that ambrosia is the best in the world ever, and that you guys can't eat home produced stuff from your cleaner than ours dairy herd. the world's gone bonkers.
(I helped save b3ta! god save the queen making another unremarkable comeback, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:35, archived)
# It's disturbing that the industry can still thrive while they destroy entire herds "just in case".
Would the vaccination still work if it was done on entry to the importing country/on exit from Britain?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:22, archived)
# [Is it a special kind of newt?
it better be made out of frickin' gold!
or have laser eyes, or something.

Badgers spread bovine TB? can't capture all the wild badgers? then you need, cow-guard!
Na, surely a cull isn't people roaming the country side looking for a rouge TB-Badger,
it;s probably more like, if you see one, or you have a burrow close to your farm, your legally entitled to reduce the risk to your livestock, no?
(DrZaarlon Witchspace To Ra!, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:06, archived)
# Itsn a Piisdasai Newt
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:10, archived)
# looking for a rouge badger?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:11, archived)
# [Then You Need...
...The B-Team!]
(DrZaarlon Witchspace To Ra!, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:12, archived)
# Some kind of chorus line are they?
Animal leg show?
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:16, archived)
# The B3ta team
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:18, archived)
# ROUGE BADGERS:
THEY'RE FRENCH. ALSO: THEY ARE RED.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:27, archived)
# its a XENU newt
forged in the fires of mount doom
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:17, archived)
# I'm guessing it'll be hunting parties
an excuse for the fox botherers to do some legal blooding.
So no, not getting rid of specific badgers that might be near cows, just badgers anywhere they are spotted.
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:23, archived)
# [Well there you have your sensible contribution to discussion...
...selective areas should be targetted.
ie, those areas near cattle, and estimates of the size of the badgers' territories should be included in there somewhere... ;?) ]
(DrZaarlon Witchspace To Ra!, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 11:38, archived)
# SAVE THE BADGERS!
kill the pandas instead!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:07, archived)
# Save the pandas
Kill the Cows!
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:08, archived)
# Save the cow!
Cunt the peregrine falcon!

Edit: I mean osprey. For they are black and white. Apologies for the bird of prey mix-up. Normal service will be resumed shortly.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:09, archived)
# Cows are evil
they just stare at you
Crteepy
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:11, archived)
# Time to twat an eagle?
Lols
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:12, archived)
# Flash!
Flash I love you. But we have only got three minutes to twat and eagle!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:14, archived)
# I am already twat enough.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:14, archived)
# Come and have a go if you think you're twat enough:D
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:15, archived)
# some of my best friends are twats
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:17, archived)
# Well medical science can do some much these days.
I hear that people that are twats can live next to normal lives these days!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:20, archived)
# and normal people
Can live next to twats

As do I
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:26, archived)
# bloody useless pandas.
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:09, archived)
# YES!!!
DIE THEY MUST DIE, THE PANDAS MUST DIE!!!!
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:12, archived)
# ah cannae get you tube at work..
=(
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:15, archived)
# Corky and the Juicepigs
'Die they must die, the pandas must die'.
(I helped save b3ta! riverghost servicing your mum since, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:18, archived)
# those bastards!!
one of them was probably bitten by a badger as a child.
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:07, archived)
# fuck 'em
what did the badgers ever do for us?
(I helped save b3ta! the RAND corporation a.k.a. Kevin Saxe-Coburg-Gotha, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:08, archived)
# and then kill them?
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:08, archived)
# If we killed all the cows there wouldn't be a problem.
I'm going to start tonight.
(I helped save b3ta! Fresh Water Mole loves his baby boy more and more every day, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:10, archived)
# Or alternatively, I thought,
domesticate the badger.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:38, archived)
# :-(
CAPTIN DOES LOVE BAJJERS

Ning all- it's Friday for me!
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:10, archived)
# what about us?!
god, you're so selfish!!
=D
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:11, archived)
# I love you too.
But you're not as cute as lully bajjers.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:12, archived)
# that is very true...
(I helped save b3ta! ivesb Highly specialised Clinical Physiologist crapbag, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:13, archived)
# Friday on Wednesday?
OOOh
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:14, archived)
# I know, well deserved time off.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:18, archived)
# Hmph
IT;s still wednesday here, you must live in a time Fwap
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:19, archived)
# I mean I've got tomorrow and Friday off.
I've got a haircut booked tomorrow.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:21, archived)
# I just looked at the board stats.
HOW THE FUCK DID YOU MANAGE TWO THOUSAND POSTS?
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:13, archived)
# Thats quite a feat
Nearly 3 times my entire total in 2 and something years!
(I helped save b3ta! Smithlick is often seen at the bottom of threads, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:17, archived)
# Not a bloody clue.
I blame you lot for being so sexy.

I shall be cutting down my b3taing though.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:24, archived)
# Don't blame me, I can't help it.
Seriously though, I've had weeks where I've done pretty much nothing but sit on b3ta and I don't think I've reached 1000.

I think you may have set a record, for what it's worth.
(I helped save b3ta! gronkpan, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:29, archived)
# I'm not proud...
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:33, archived)
# I endorse anything to do with badgers that isn't breaking them.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:11, archived)
# Housebreaking?
Imagine. Pet badger. AWESOME. I'd call him Mushroom Mushroom.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:13, archived)
# Needs more snake.
But yes, a house badger would be the absolute fucking greatest.

And the next logical step up from the rabbit I used to own.

A real one, not the orgasm inducing kind.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:16, archived)
# I've got a lizard, she'll do.
Token reptile.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:19, archived)
# I've always wanted one of those giant crabs as a pet.
One as big as a dustbin lid. That'd scare away the salesmen.
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:21, archived)
# If you get one, call it Minnie.
Tis a good name for a crab.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:23, archived)
# Nah, I'd want something a bit scarier.
Like BattleCrab or Professor Claws.
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:24, archived)
# Mr Claw Pants
(Vinegar strokes Should know better on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:28, archived)
# we don' need no stinkin badgers!
just kidding of course. Can we not cull the government instead? They are endangering us all after all...

Anyone rememeber badger girl? (ftw)
(I helped save b3ta! op op op op op I stink therfore I spam, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:16, archived)
# I agree with you
for the same reason that I am willing to give a bit of pocket change to a Save the Pandas tin-rattler. Before strolling into a shop and buying a McBacon Heart Attack.

Animal cuteness is directly proportional to their right to life
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:17, archived)
# This
"What are you?"

"I'm an otter. I do cute human-like things with my paws."

"OK - you're free to go. What are you?"

"I'm a cow."

"You're a baseball glove"

"But I've got big eyes..."

"You're a jacket! Get on the van!"
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:22, archived)
# Hahaha
(I helped save b3ta! Walrus Man Think hippy thoughts, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:27, archived)
# Who cares?
As long as I get my food I don't. This is how human society works.

Sanctimonious whining about giving animals human rights is just as much noise.

I don't see anyone complaining about the treatment of plankton in fish farms.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:20, archived)
# This is not how all of human society works
I applaud those who stand up and shout for what they believe is right.
As long as I agree with them of course.
All others can get tae feck.
(I helped save b3ta! Flowerpot No longer has the vapours thanks to DTH, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:34, archived)
# Sadly, I'm afraid it is.
Humans are, like all animals, entirely selfish.

The difference is some are too scared to accept that, and so dress it up pretentiously as altruism and giving a damn about their fellows.

Cooperation only comes about through necessity, not through good will.

Animals are just bottom of the food chain.
(I helped save b3ta! Je suis un vagabond is an unfunny, up your own arse middle class knob, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:03, archived)
# The Government knows as much about the countryside
as a horse knows about engineering.

Banning fox hunting. Fucking idiots.
(I helped save b3ta! durbster durbster.co.uk, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:21, archived)
# Fox hunting.
Many people + many dogs after one fox. So a massive waste of energy, number one. So either foxhunters are fucking idiots, or fucking cruel bastards, as far as I can see. You really want a fox dead? One man and a shotgun. Whoops, forgot, foxes are 12 foot long laser-toting masterminds who NEED ten+ humans and a pack of hounds to chase them down.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:32, archived)
# ah, but the people are clever, because they breed the foxes themselves
so they know where to look for them.
Granted that means they've bred things to kill the chickens, BUT THAT DOESN'T MATTER BECAUSE THEY CAN KILL STUFF!!!
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:38, archived)
# You'd think, in this day and age, people would have an element of compassion.
If you're going to kill something, don't make the last hour of it's life full of fear and adrenaline and pain.

Sorry, foxhunters are cunts, in my humble opinion. I've sabbed a few hunts in my time and feel exactly 0% guilt.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:41, archived)
# There's no moral obligation to anthropomorphise wild animals,
even mammals.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:58, archived)
# no, but there is a moral obligation to question
why people want to inflict unnecessary pain on any living thing, and what kind of a fucked up person and dangerous member of society that makes them.

Lowered moral standards in most violent inmates can be traced back to incidents of their abusing animals earlier in their life.
If the shoe fits....
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:02, archived)
# Yes but you see
if you choose not to anthropomorphise, the pain becomes nothing to worry about it. You make it sound as if they're reveling in inflicting pain, which I agree would be immoral. It would be perfectly possible to be a foxhunter without imagining that the foxes are little humans undergoing terrible torment, though. Just like it's possible to be a fisherman without having sadistic feelings towards fish.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:12, archived)
# Oh, so they don't feel pain then?
How about I set a pack of dogs on you? Or are you different because you're a human? How fucking egotistical.
(I helped save b3ta! Captain Wow currently being a cunt in Infamous, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:07, archived)
# *sigh*
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:13, archived)
# Sorry, that was snarky of me
I shouldn't jump into these arguments if I don't enjoy them. OK: they don't experience pain in a morally relevant way, any more than a robot (equipped with nerve pathways) experiences pain. This is because they don't really think (and, come to that, don't have any morals or compassion).
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:16, archived)
# 'They don't experience pain in a morally relevant way'.
Could you explain this to me, please?

As far as I'm concerned I would respect anyone a hell of a lot more if they just came out and said 'I enjoy fox hunting because I enjoy killing foxes' over trying to justify it through convoluted moral standpoints.
(I helped save b3ta! An Eagle in Your Mind, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:47, archived)
# Imagine you'd built a robot that reacts to damage because it receives signals from sensors.
Do you give it rights and pity just because it reacts?
I wish it wasn't necessary to defend hunting morally, too.
(_Felix 's school of dance and occult sciences, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 11:08, archived)
# what about pheasent shooting?
is that ok?
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:06, archived)
# Why foxes?
Lots of animals must be killed in the countryside. Cows have to killed if they're simply not the right kind of cow. Did you sabotage those farmers or wasn't it fashionable enough to appeal to your conscience?

Fox hunting only kills off the weakest of the foxes; the fast, healthy ones are too quick.
(I helped save b3ta! durbster durbster.co.uk, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:11, archived)
# They may be idiots
they may even be cruel people (even though fox hunting isn't cruel), but they should be allowed to do it if they want.

Shooting a fox is no better for the animal. 9 times out of 10 you don't kill it in the first shot, so it drags it's bleeding, half blown off body off into the undergrowth.
(I helped save b3ta! durbster durbster.co.uk, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:07, archived)
# while i agree with you
there are other impliations in the giving of vaccinations to be taken into account.

this may help explain.
www.badgers.org.uk/badgerpages/eurasian-badger-25.html

testing and vaccination do not go hand in hand at this point in time.
(I helped save b3ta! Thor_sonofodin has done things, terrible things on, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:50, archived)
# It's mostly about DEFRA
being completely shit at everything they do.
(I helped save b3ta! Afinkawan est in horto, sedet, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 9:59, archived)
# It's Defra now, not DEFRA...
Capital 'D', lower case the rest. It softens the perception, see?

I used to work for Defra. Most bureaucratic job I ever had, and I used to work for the DSS / Jobcentre!

Oh, shit. Just remembered my current post is funded by Defra. Lovely department...
(I helped save b3ta! Davros' Granddad a voice of calm reason in a world of spastics., Wed 27 Feb 2008, 13:30, archived)
# I too think this is ridiculous.
But can not but wonder as to how badger would taste marinaded in soy with basil, garlic and tarragon.
(I helped save b3ta! Sir Pigeon Nipples Did you sit in some sugar?, Wed 27 Feb 2008, 10:07, archived)