You jest surely?You couldn't possibly get a more feminine you.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:10,
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I could shave more regularly and grow breasts.That's probably about it.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:11,
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Pics or it never happened!
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:15,
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Silly manYou cannot take pictures of your mind.
MRI scans perhaps, but that is the brain anyway.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:20,
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MRI scans perhaps, but that is the brain anyway.
Brain is mind.Don't believe those dualists.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:21,
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LiesMind is brain function. You can map brain function, but that will not provide sight evidence.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:22,
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I admit it will take a long time to fully map out brain function as it relates to mind,and it may not be possible. But I don't think there is anything else other than brain. It's just horrifically complicated.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:25,
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Yes but they are still not the same thingIn the same way that Neuroscience is not the same as Psychology.
Plus i'm still of the ilk that isn't quite sure about the whole consciousness thing,
I vaguely remember there being some talk about the belief that the brain shared quantum properties but that never really made much sense to me.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:27,
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Plus i'm still of the ilk that isn't quite sure about the whole consciousness thing,
I vaguely remember there being some talk about the belief that the brain shared quantum properties but that never really made much sense to me.
But if such a mapping were to be created,neuroscience would converge with psychology.
Neuroscience can be used to measure fairly crude emotions, but then, we're mostly using fairly crude equipment.
The spatial resolution just isn't good enough to take it down to the neuron level. Yet.
(Neuroscience can be used to measure fairly crude emotions, but then, we're mostly using fairly crude equipment.
The spatial resolution just isn't good enough to take it down to the neuron level. Yet.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:32,
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It could yesIn the same way Special Relativity will eventually merge with Quantum mechanics to create a unifying theory, once they iron out the flaws in String theory. But until psychiatrist computers can scan people and give psychological analysis based on neurological activity, the mind will still be seperate regarding those schools of thought.
In human terms it is too hard for people to compute thing mentally, in the same way you calculate forces such as friction, wind resistance, water resistance and so on despite the fact they are part of the same unifying forces.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:37,
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In human terms it is too hard for people to compute thing mentally, in the same way you calculate forces such as friction, wind resistance, water resistance and so on despite the fact they are part of the same unifying forces.
Yes, I expect they'll always be seperate.I hope so anyway. The alternative is worrying.
Nonetheless, whether or not we can measure them, I think that all the processes of the human 'mind' are purely physical.
(Nonetheless, whether or not we can measure them, I think that all the processes of the human 'mind' are purely physical.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:39,
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Well yesPresuming you are using physical in the literal sense to mean energy transfers, rather than physical as in touchable. In which case everthing is physical, as everything is energy.
But we digress from the point, I grew these breasts right...
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:44,
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But we digress from the point, I grew these breasts right...
I mean physical as in matter or energy or whatever.Something that is physically understood, rather than something defined purely as "not being matter"
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:45,
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Indeed,I think anyone who would try to argue that the mind is anything other than some energy transfers, is a mental spiritualist. Consciousness on the other hand is more of a philosophical nightmare and also in many cases a concept rather than a firm reality.
I think if anyone ever worked consciousness out they would probably instantly fold the universe in on itself, well obviously they wouldn't, but that's just a concept on its nebulous nature.
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Wed 27 Feb 2008, 23:51,
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I think if anyone ever worked consciousness out they would probably instantly fold the universe in on itself, well obviously they wouldn't, but that's just a concept on its nebulous nature.