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pretty pictures, pretentious storywriting AND sounds!
it's got everything really...
here's a (low-res) taster:

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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:33,
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pretty pictures, pretentious storywriting AND sounds!
it's got everything really...
here's a (low-res) taster:


I'm loving the atmos. You've been at it with a putty rubber then? I could very much be wrong.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:36,
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i actually used a hard rubber for a nice hard edge to get some sharp rub marks.
amazing how much rubber you get through when you press hard with your 'rounded' end and repeatedly attack the 'sharp' end with your stanley knife!
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:38,
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amazing how much rubber you get through when you press hard with your 'rounded' end and repeatedly attack the 'sharp' end with your stanley knife!

never could get it to work right with a hard one- nicely done.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:40,
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it always seems to fall apart in my hands
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:46,
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I think it's just different strokes for folks.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:49,
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Still, nice strip though, although some of the smaller text was a bit hard to read.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:38,
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it's what i do best :)
and the whole thing's a lot easier to read in the flesh. well paper.
whatever.
go to the st martins end of year show and see for yourself.
27th til 31st
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:41,
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and the whole thing's a lot easier to read in the flesh. well paper.
whatever.
go to the st martins end of year show and see for yourself.
27th til 31st

It's more of a passive appreciation than anything.
But the bash is on the 31st so I'm sure you can force everyone to go see it, or put it up on the b3ta calendar or something.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:54,
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But the bash is on the 31st so I'm sure you can force everyone to go see it, or put it up on the b3ta calendar or something.

this is about a level 4 of pretentiousness (on a scale of 1-10) at my art college.
this is why i'm escaping to bournemouth to do animation next year...
as for adding to the b3ta calendar.
no thanks.
i get called a cunt enough as it is on here...
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:00,
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this is why i'm escaping to bournemouth to do animation next year...
as for adding to the b3ta calendar.
no thanks.
i get called a cunt enough as it is on here...

I really wanna go there when I go to uni.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:02,
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I wanna design album art and concert posters and the like. :]
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:07,
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fine art's more about context and bollocks like that. ;)
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:18,
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S'what I thought.
What do you study?
Also, is it actually a good place to go?
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:22,
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What do you study?
Also, is it actually a good place to go?

so we got to try a bit of everything, and then i chose fine art media.
it's a good place yeah, BUT you have to be the right sort of person to go there.
as much as most of b3ta thinks i'm a pretentious fool, i actually can't stand it there.
it's the kinda place where technical skill is almost discouraged, because it's all about 'the idea'.
which infuriates me, becauce the concept is only half the battle. it takes a lot of skill to actually Make it.
but in terms of being 'the place to be' it's great
because there's lot of oppurtunities to get your name out there, make connections, which is basically what the art world is really all about.
especially if you want to do something commercial like making band covers and posters.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:43,
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it's a good place yeah, BUT you have to be the right sort of person to go there.
as much as most of b3ta thinks i'm a pretentious fool, i actually can't stand it there.
it's the kinda place where technical skill is almost discouraged, because it's all about 'the idea'.
which infuriates me, becauce the concept is only half the battle. it takes a lot of skill to actually Make it.
but in terms of being 'the place to be' it's great
because there's lot of oppurtunities to get your name out there, make connections, which is basically what the art world is really all about.
especially if you want to do something commercial like making band covers and posters.

that all doesn't surprise me, oddly. I went to the museum there one time. It was alright, really. Some...odd stuff there. Heheh.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:46,
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Then he ended up deferring, doing a cram year of biology and chemistry and then going to university to be a doctor, I never knew why though.
He was sort of inbetween, where he would have some fairly flippant and strange reasoning but the product would always be good. Like massive oil paintings of Saddam Hussein surrounded by rotting meat and stuff.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:49,
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He was sort of inbetween, where he would have some fairly flippant and strange reasoning but the product would always be good. Like massive oil paintings of Saddam Hussein surrounded by rotting meat and stuff.

it's like working with paint and canvas without the mess.

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I like it. But I'm a mere amateur compared to what people do with it.
www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/gb/en/Product/1166553885783
when you buy it, it even comes in a paint tin.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 0:53,
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I like it. But I'm a mere amateur compared to what people do with it.
www.corel.com/servlet/Satellite/gb/en/Product/1166553885783
when you buy it, it even comes in a paint tin.

nice stuff
i dont really like using graphics tablets
i like to be able to see the pencil marks coming From the pen.
but one thing.
were those drawn freehand?
cause i'm always suspicious of people using computer programs who can draw accurately like that.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:04,
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i dont really like using graphics tablets
i like to be able to see the pencil marks coming From the pen.
but one thing.
were those drawn freehand?
cause i'm always suspicious of people using computer programs who can draw accurately like that.

by freehand. With a tablet you either drew it or you didn't and if you didn't then I guess you used software to do it for you. I do trace stuff and I do use photo reference but every strike is done by hand.
As for accurate? the things I posted are hardly technically accurate, very far from it.
You can make some nice drawings with a tablet if you put your mind to it and not have people who prefer graphite look down their noses at you. Tablets are just cleaner and facilitate a faster way of working.

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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:09,
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As for accurate? the things I posted are hardly technically accurate, very far from it.
You can make some nice drawings with a tablet if you put your mind to it and not have people who prefer graphite look down their noses at you. Tablets are just cleaner and facilitate a faster way of working.

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you misunderstand
i'm not looking down my nose at you
it's just that with a computer cheating is a lot easier. but then that's not to say it isn't a skill.
it's just one i don't really enjoy cause i can't get the hang of it.
i agree it's much easier and cleaner.
assuming you know the program well. i always get frustrated by not being able to do things i could do in less than three seconds with a pencil and paper... but i guess that's just learning the software.
what i meant by freehand was... do you start with a blank canvas and start drawing on it, or do you put some stuff in as a background layer and trace over it.
which isn't to say tracing detracts from it at all, it just becomes a different set of skills. for example exemplifying the hair like in your picture here to give an unnatural effect, but a nice one nonetheless (assuming you traced this one... i dont know...)
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:16,
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i'm not looking down my nose at you
it's just that with a computer cheating is a lot easier. but then that's not to say it isn't a skill.
it's just one i don't really enjoy cause i can't get the hang of it.
i agree it's much easier and cleaner.
assuming you know the program well. i always get frustrated by not being able to do things i could do in less than three seconds with a pencil and paper... but i guess that's just learning the software.
what i meant by freehand was... do you start with a blank canvas and start drawing on it, or do you put some stuff in as a background layer and trace over it.
which isn't to say tracing detracts from it at all, it just becomes a different set of skills. for example exemplifying the hair like in your picture here to give an unnatural effect, but a nice one nonetheless (assuming you traced this one... i dont know...)

I do draw from my mind's eye. I'm working on some concept characters right now and have my anatomy books scattered about.
quick things like seascapes and landscapes don't take a minute to brush in either photoshop or anything else and I can knock them out all day.
Portraits I will trace the basics because it is quicker, more precise and I do it for the result and not an excersise in how well I can observe something.
My days of art class are long, long behind me.
I know what you mean with frustration at not knowing a program well enough to get the result you want. I was like that with photoshop for years before I decided to get to grips with it.
I'm currently being frustrated with Maya but I will work on it, especially having seen that this guy uses it to base his fantastic work on.
www.raycaesar.com/
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:26,
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quick things like seascapes and landscapes don't take a minute to brush in either photoshop or anything else and I can knock them out all day.
Portraits I will trace the basics because it is quicker, more precise and I do it for the result and not an excersise in how well I can observe something.
My days of art class are long, long behind me.
I know what you mean with frustration at not knowing a program well enough to get the result you want. I was like that with photoshop for years before I decided to get to grips with it.
I'm currently being frustrated with Maya but I will work on it, especially having seen that this guy uses it to base his fantastic work on.
www.raycaesar.com/

as much as you can instantly get something nice looking if you trace
it's more about training your eye
it's kind've essential for Anyone doing visual art of any kind.
if you can draw perfectly freehand, it's not that you have a pointless skill that can be undermined by tracing... it just allows you to do everything better.
i'd recomend life drawing to photographers.
but they look at me funny :)
also that IS some mighty nice drawing!
although people like that just make we want to give up with their stupid mastery :(
mind you... i AM only 20... this guy's probably been practising a while longer than me...
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:34,
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it's more about training your eye
it's kind've essential for Anyone doing visual art of any kind.
if you can draw perfectly freehand, it's not that you have a pointless skill that can be undermined by tracing... it just allows you to do everything better.
i'd recomend life drawing to photographers.
but they look at me funny :)
also that IS some mighty nice drawing!
although people like that just make we want to give up with their stupid mastery :(
mind you... i AM only 20... this guy's probably been practising a while longer than me...

and have been drawing technically for my work for years.
I can sketch well, and I can paint in any number of mediums. I just don't.
All it comes down to now is a little hobby and I make pictures to please me and if someone else happens to like them then all the better.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:37,
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I can sketch well, and I can paint in any number of mediums. I just don't.
All it comes down to now is a little hobby and I make pictures to please me and if someone else happens to like them then all the better.

clearly you've had enough practice in your lifetime especially if you draw technically for your work...
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:56,
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I have this on my desk if it makes you feel better that I'm not totally digital.

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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:59,
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i dont have a problem with people using photoshop. there's stuff on there you just cant do on paper, which is clearly a good thing.
i just can't be arsed to get to grips with it just yet...
i will one day, just you wait n see :)
i'll be all...fwofff! rasterize!
...or something.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 2:11,
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i just can't be arsed to get to grips with it just yet...
i will one day, just you wait n see :)
i'll be all...fwofff! rasterize!
...or something.

these.

there may be musics to follow soon.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:18,
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there may be musics to follow soon.

it was actually the single most enjoyable program to use in my life.
because i wanted to do things, and then, like, the program let me do them.
without even faffing about in about 10 different help forums!
ps.
it's not my own music, it's samples and whatnot.
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Sun 18 May 2008, 1:20,
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because i wanted to do things, and then, like, the program let me do them.
without even faffing about in about 10 different help forums!
ps.
it's not my own music, it's samples and whatnot.