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# I know Mill thought of this
But he doesn't provide a satisfactory answer that I can see. And he didn't talk about less-developed nations. He talked about barbarians and nations in their 'nonage' (On Liberty, ch. 1).

I don't understand the leap you've made to the Spenglerian point about the decline of the west. It seems to have nothing to do with anything that anyone's said here hitherto.
(, Wed 10 Dec 2008, 12:42, archived)