I'm down with your logicThe Belgrano, for instance, was also a heavily armed cruiser capable of sinking our aircraft carriers from 13 miles away - not a troop transport ship (she just happened to have troops on her as well). About here is where you have stopped reading this post. It's these sorts of things that people need to know to have proper context.
There is an argument that, if one were cynical enough to believe it, suggests that the Lusitania was not only a legitimate target, but that she was deliberately presented on a plate for the Germans in order to give the USA an excuse to enter the war.
The same has also been said about the Belgrano - that it was laid out for us to sink and thus be used as a public relations tool for Argentina to get sympathy from the international community. It has been remarked that, as the Belgrano was escorted by two type-42 anti-submarine destroyers (the crews for which had been trained by the Royal Navy before the war), then HMS Conqueror should not have been able to close with her so easily.
I'm not saying I neccessarily hold to this argument in either case, but there is a certain logic there. War is a complicated business.
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 22:13,
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There is an argument that, if one were cynical enough to believe it, suggests that the Lusitania was not only a legitimate target, but that she was deliberately presented on a plate for the Germans in order to give the USA an excuse to enter the war.
The same has also been said about the Belgrano - that it was laid out for us to sink and thus be used as a public relations tool for Argentina to get sympathy from the international community. It has been remarked that, as the Belgrano was escorted by two type-42 anti-submarine destroyers (the crews for which had been trained by the Royal Navy before the war), then HMS Conqueror should not have been able to close with her so easily.
I'm not saying I neccessarily hold to this argument in either case, but there is a certain logic there. War is a complicated business.
I'm afraid I am cynical enough to believe it,as well as the attack on Pearl Harbor being known in advance
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 22:28,
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The Japanese attacked the Russians at Port Arthur in a simillar mannerand the Americans thought it was great. Japanese students at Harvard University were invited, in the wake of the attack on Port Arthur, to give speeches on the inherent virtues of Japenese manhood, and Japanese culture was celebrated throughout the USA for months afterwards. It was, in short, a very popular move at the time.
They don't like it when the shoe's on the other foot, mind.
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 22:39,
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They don't like it when the shoe's on the other foot, mind.
nope, then it's internment camps andgruel for tea
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Thu 8 Jan 2009, 22:46,
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