Or at the lack of medical/qualified peopleto put them in the recovery position. This could have saved quite a few lives
source - research not the newspapers, my misses is reading a science journal on it and PVS victims
(source - research not the newspapers, my misses is reading a science journal on it and PVS victims
boff FL OZ,
Fri 17 Apr 2009, 11:27,
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"Long and Dull" warning:Interesting point. This the disaster which brought about the Taylor Inquiry, which produced the Taylor Report, specifying minimum standards for medical cover:
- There must now be at least one approved and designated First Aid room in any stadium.
- There must now be 1 Trained First Aider onsite per 1000 spectators. This is usually made up of SJA volunteers.
- There must now be 1 Trained "crowd" Doctor onsite if there's over 2000 spectators.
- There must now be 1 Fully equipped Ambulance (NHS or approved alternative) onsite if there's over 5000 spectators.
Some places exceed standards. Cardiff Millenium Stadium, built entirely post-Taylor, has 12 minor First Aid rooms spread evenly around the ground, each with a complement of standard first-aiders, and a well-equipped main room crewed with more-advanced staff. Others are... less impressive.
Although it's important to remember that even if we'd had twice the Taylor-numbers on that day, there would certainly still have been fatalities. It's easy to look at 96 fatalities and assume that they died purely for want of basic medical care. But first you have to triage the most critical from the 800+ casualties, in a confused setting; no easy task which would have overloaded any reasonable medical attendance. The recommendations are not about having enough people and kit in place before a disaster, to prevent any losses while dealing with it internally; they're about keeping people alive while a larger external response is mobilised.
Of course, the blame for Hillsborough is spread wide. Spectators certainly contributed; no-one could get crushed at the front if no-one was pushing further backwards. Gross negligence in ground management, stewarding, and policing certainly contributed.
But then, could either party could have made their mistakes if the others hadn't let them? Even the persons who ordered the unannounced roadworks on the M62 has some small responsibility, failing to warn people of the need to depart earlier.
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Fri 17 Apr 2009, 12:59,
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- There must now be at least one approved and designated First Aid room in any stadium.
- There must now be 1 Trained First Aider onsite per 1000 spectators. This is usually made up of SJA volunteers.
- There must now be 1 Trained "crowd" Doctor onsite if there's over 2000 spectators.
- There must now be 1 Fully equipped Ambulance (NHS or approved alternative) onsite if there's over 5000 spectators.
Some places exceed standards. Cardiff Millenium Stadium, built entirely post-Taylor, has 12 minor First Aid rooms spread evenly around the ground, each with a complement of standard first-aiders, and a well-equipped main room crewed with more-advanced staff. Others are... less impressive.
Although it's important to remember that even if we'd had twice the Taylor-numbers on that day, there would certainly still have been fatalities. It's easy to look at 96 fatalities and assume that they died purely for want of basic medical care. But first you have to triage the most critical from the 800+ casualties, in a confused setting; no easy task which would have overloaded any reasonable medical attendance. The recommendations are not about having enough people and kit in place before a disaster, to prevent any losses while dealing with it internally; they're about keeping people alive while a larger external response is mobilised.
Of course, the blame for Hillsborough is spread wide. Spectators certainly contributed; no-one could get crushed at the front if no-one was pushing further backwards. Gross negligence in ground management, stewarding, and policing certainly contributed.
But then, could either party could have made their mistakes if the others hadn't let them? Even the persons who ordered the unannounced roadworks on the M62 has some small responsibility, failing to warn people of the need to depart earlier.
(minor clarity edits)