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# Nail more or less on head.
(, Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:48, archived)
# Sadly
like alcoholics, they are terrified of admitting the problem.
Or facing the pain of sorting it out.
(, Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:52, archived)
# I don't know if it's quite that simple,
but I'll admit it is their emphasis on selling the Everlasting Life in Paradise Earth for the Righteous is what concerns me most. If there's a reward for doing God's will, are you really doing it for God or for yourself?
(, Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:57, archived)
# It isn't that simple, nothing is.
Selling sounds like the key term here, a God franchise with merchandising rights?
I really don't know much about them specifically. However, using Occams razor, does a being that could create billions of galaxies really need a door to door sales force?
Does that (or any other coercive religion) seem realistic?
(I'm ignoring the cultural/historical contexts of major faiths - it's the interwebs)
(, Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:05, archived)
# I say selling, it's a loaded word,
which is why I hate it when people say I've got to "sell myself" to get a job... ugh...
We could get way too deep into theology/philosophy here, I don't personally see the need to go round people's doors like that but if free will is important God isn't going to "make" everyone believe, as simple as it might seem the world would become. If I, as a servant of God, believe it is right that such service should carry on, it makes sense to spread the idea around in some way or another.
(, Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:17, archived)
# We're nearly off the page here.
I still have yet to understand why an omnipotent being should need to have anyone believe in anything. If behaving well to other beings they have created is the issue why the need to pray.

(I'm enjoying this conversation)
(, Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:27, archived)
# Oh...
I'm enjoying it too, but alas I have to go to the shops. For now I'm going to cite Job 35:6-10, because I want to.
Gaz me if you want to continue this.
(, Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:40, archived)