
I keep getting emails from this man about Cheesus . Please help me make him go away
Also, is that ArrangedLetters in 20 years?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 13:59,
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needs more jaundice and other associated liver failure problems.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:13,
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They're alright. They give me books that have funny pictures in.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:00,
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They stop coming round then
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:04,
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almost makes me want to join their pointless DEATH CULT and give them ALL MY MONEY
which ultimately is all they want.
they just don't murder as many people as scientology.
lol :D
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:19,
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which ultimately is all they want.
they just don't murder as many people as scientology.
lol :D
Well, the organisation itself might be doing that, but the individual members have a genuine belief that they have a moral duty to try to save people's souls. Which is nice.
They've given me this one called "What does the Bible really teach?"
Page 13 features a truly awesome composition. I'd take a picture if I had a camera.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:26,
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They've given me this one called "What does the Bible really teach?"
Page 13 features a truly awesome composition. I'd take a picture if I had a camera.
moral belief of the footsoldiers
I'm sure the folks at the bottom of scientology really believe it all too
bottom line: they all want your stuff.
whether it's money, power, or maybe even they really want your soul.
They make well produced material, with high quality art and photography, and general editorial control.
but they still want you and your stuff :)
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:33,
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I'm sure the folks at the bottom of scientology really believe it all too
bottom line: they all want your stuff.
whether it's money, power, or maybe even they really want your soul.
They make well produced material, with high quality art and photography, and general editorial control.
but they still want you and your stuff :)
I'd gathered it was all voluntary contributions but no doubt there's some kind of pressure on members, subtle or otherwise. Really comparing them to Scientology is a bit much though, they who explicitly charge you absurd sums of money for nonsensical services.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:37,
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I just don't like people coming to my door telling me god's will, like they have some special hotline directly to it, it's utterly arrogant.
I'm sure that these groups do good stuff in places, but I've no inclination towards any of them or their hubris.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:44,
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I'm sure that these groups do good stuff in places, but I've no inclination towards any of them or their hubris.
and I don't mind them coming round to discuss it with me. Maybe they will tell me a few things I don't know, I'm not so arrogant as to think I have all the answers either.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:47,
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sorry that I'm so arrogant that I don't want people who know better than me about everything I don't understand because I'm too stupid and have to be told lecturing me about how I'm going to be in eternal damnation unless I do what they say I do.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:03,
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Everyone has different knowledge and understanding and I see no harm in sharing it. You have to form your own opinions, of course, but there's no reason to be afraid of the idea that someone else's opinions might influence you in some way. The more different perspectives you can gather, the better, if you ask me.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:11,
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They are acting out of fear and self-interest. They don't want to go to hell.
Witnesses believe there are a limited number of places available in heaven after the apocolypse. Places will be reserved for those who have committed good deeds, chief among which is spreading the message.
The irony is that for every successful conversion, there's greater competition for seats in heaven. In my opinion the best questions to ask Witnesses are: 1) how many people will be allowed into the heaven (the answer is 144,000 I think)... 2) Doesn't every person you convert decrease your chances of going there? ... 3) Your god's really done a number on you guys hasn't he?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:35,
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Witnesses believe there are a limited number of places available in heaven after the apocolypse. Places will be reserved for those who have committed good deeds, chief among which is spreading the message.
The irony is that for every successful conversion, there's greater competition for seats in heaven. In my opinion the best questions to ask Witnesses are: 1) how many people will be allowed into the heaven (the answer is 144,000 I think)... 2) Doesn't every person you convert decrease your chances of going there? ... 3) Your god's really done a number on you guys hasn't he?
Yes, 144,000 go to heaven, but after that's full up everyone else righteous gets to live on a future Paradise Earth after the judgment. And it's the first 144,000, so it's full already by their reckoning.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:39,
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so all you can offer me is a second-class seat?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:42,
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heaven sounds like a lot of hard work if you ask me, they're going to be the ones who are going to have to run the place.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:44,
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like making mops and buckets come to life, as prophesised by Walt Disney in The Book Of Fantasia.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:48,
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Fear of death is the key.
Sadly, believing these superstitions may actually increase the fear of death rather than relieving it.
It is a little like alcoholism, a failed attempt to block pain.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:41,
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Sadly, believing these superstitions may actually increase the fear of death rather than relieving it.
It is a little like alcoholism, a failed attempt to block pain.
like alcoholics, they are terrified of admitting the problem.
Or facing the pain of sorting it out.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:52,
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Or facing the pain of sorting it out.
but I'll admit it is their emphasis on selling the Everlasting Life in Paradise Earth for the Righteous is what concerns me most. If there's a reward for doing God's will, are you really doing it for God or for yourself?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:57,
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Selling sounds like the key term here, a God franchise with merchandising rights?
I really don't know much about them specifically. However, using Occams razor, does a being that could create billions of galaxies really need a door to door sales force?
Does that (or any other coercive religion) seem realistic?
(I'm ignoring the cultural/historical contexts of major faiths - it's the interwebs)
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:05,
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I really don't know much about them specifically. However, using Occams razor, does a being that could create billions of galaxies really need a door to door sales force?
Does that (or any other coercive religion) seem realistic?
(I'm ignoring the cultural/historical contexts of major faiths - it's the interwebs)
which is why I hate it when people say I've got to "sell myself" to get a job... ugh...
We could get way too deep into theology/philosophy here, I don't personally see the need to go round people's doors like that but if free will is important God isn't going to "make" everyone believe, as simple as it might seem the world would become. If I, as a servant of God, believe it is right that such service should carry on, it makes sense to spread the idea around in some way or another.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:17,
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We could get way too deep into theology/philosophy here, I don't personally see the need to go round people's doors like that but if free will is important God isn't going to "make" everyone believe, as simple as it might seem the world would become. If I, as a servant of God, believe it is right that such service should carry on, it makes sense to spread the idea around in some way or another.
I still have yet to understand why an omnipotent being should need to have anyone believe in anything. If behaving well to other beings they have created is the issue why the need to pray.
(I'm enjoying this conversation)
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:27,
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(I'm enjoying this conversation)
I'm enjoying it too, but alas I have to go to the shops. For now I'm going to cite Job 35:6-10, because I want to.
Gaz me if you want to continue this.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 15:40,
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Gaz me if you want to continue this.
...have you tried reading the emails backwards?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:05,
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by mentally challenged humans to justify obscence acts of sexual depravity, murder and coffee mornings?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:14,
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who're you going to call?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:14,
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John the Baptist, maybe. Although he wouldn't have called himself a Guru because that's Sanskrit and he was a Hebrew.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:23,
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but the Sanskrit word is currently used in our language to denote a teacher, specifically of a spiritual bent.
I also haven't the faintest idea what spiritual teacher is in Hebrew - Rabbi perhaps?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:37,
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I also haven't the faintest idea what spiritual teacher is in Hebrew - Rabbi perhaps?
(Jesus's desciples refer to him as such in some verses) actually I think literally it just means teacher.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:41,
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That's a sex machine to all the chicks?
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:17,
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Who's the black private dick
That's a sex machine to all the chicks?
(Jesus!)
You're damn right
Who is the man
That would risk his neck for his brother man?
(Jesus!)
Can ya dig it?
Who's the cat that won't cop out
When there's danger all about
(Jesus!)
Right on
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:18,
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That's a sex machine to all the chicks?
(Jesus!)
You're damn right
Who is the man
That would risk his neck for his brother man?
(Jesus!)
Can ya dig it?
Who's the cat that won't cop out
When there's danger all about
(Jesus!)
Right on
"Who is the third who walks always beside you?"
I may not be religious, but I do like the thought.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:24,
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I may not be religious, but I do like the thought.
you foretell a comic strip I was thinking of doing, in fact.
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Wed 15 Jul 2009, 14:29,
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Is the question "How many beans make five?" ?
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