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# depends on which era of the comic
(I helped save b3ta! HappyToast Groat froth, Tue 4 Aug 2009, 14:19, archived)
# the brutal ones....with the proper artyfarty drawings
where the joker shoots kids and mums
(I helped save b3ta! Floppy Donkey crawled out of the ditch., Tue 4 Aug 2009, 14:20, archived)
# all villains should shoot kids and moms
(I helped save b3ta! inexpressible started a joke on, Tue 4 Aug 2009, 14:30, archived)