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# Surely steampunk itself isn't really retro futurism either.
Seeing as how both steam power and punk are both varying degrees of retro.
(, Thu 27 Aug 2009, 20:27, archived)
# it's not actually about punk
or steam, HG Wells or Jules Vern is a good point of reference, the future but sticking with industrialisation
(, Thu 27 Aug 2009, 20:50, archived)