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# 'HEY ELLIS! I SUGGEST SOME DONATING, ALREADY!'
(I helped save b3ta! The Alchemist king of the needlessly complicated, Fri 27 Nov 2009, 17:41, archived)
# Nah, been there, done that.
(I helped save b3ta! Michael Ellis contributes nothing, Fri 27 Nov 2009, 17:46, archived)