and why are they so fussed about Turkey joining?Most of Turkey isn't even in Europe.
The answer should be obvious. CONSTANTINOPLE. Yeah, get that back off the Ottomans at long last.
(The answer should be obvious. CONSTANTINOPLE. Yeah, get that back off the Ottomans at long last.
Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Sat 23 Jan 2010, 0:40,
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I agree.But the geopolitical positions of the nation states kind of
push in that direction, despite these old blood feuds.
Sort of emerges from the map in my way of looking at it.
Who has banner X changes faster than the small seas. [/;-D
(push in that direction, despite these old blood feuds.
Sort of emerges from the map in my way of looking at it.
Who has banner X changes faster than the small seas. [/;-D
Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Sat 23 Jan 2010, 0:46,
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everything goes right back to the beginning of civilisation, if you look at it.the double-headed eagle dates back to the Hittites, 20th-13th century B.C. And then look at Iraq, where it all began, Saddam Hussein thinking he's the new Nebuchadnezzar, reconstructing the hanging gardens of Babylon and whatnot. And then Zionism. There's no such thing as the modern world. It all just keeps going on. It's kind of reassuring in a way. The Universe has a plot.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Sat 23 Jan 2010, 0:55,
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Rhythm, tides, beat-- all have been used to describe that.Exposure to the wider world 1600+ makes an impact that changes the tone for me. I've
argued that the First World War starts a little after that --near the French&Indian war--
and hasn't fucking finished yet.
(argued that the First World War starts a little after that --near the French&Indian war--
and hasn't fucking finished yet.
Tahkcalb ω∞ for sigs,
Sat 23 Jan 2010, 1:02,
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