Ok, rather than using the word 'propaganda', try the eastern bloc term 'transparisma'I find it to be a bit more descriptive - transparent messages to gain power.
If you're going to put all political messages under the propaganda umbrella (even if, let's say for theory's sake, the vast majority of people voted with the exact message you were shouting), then let's differentiate propaganda from transparisma.
(If you're going to put all political messages under the propaganda umbrella (even if, let's say for theory's sake, the vast majority of people voted with the exact message you were shouting), then let's differentiate propaganda from transparisma.
gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 16:58,
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Google returns no results for "transparisma".All political leaflets published by political parties are produced with the aim of convincing people to vote for them. They don't need to be lies as such, they only need to be persuasive in some way. It may simply rely on the audience's general tendency not to be very good at interpreting facts or understanding statistics.
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Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 17:03,
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sorry, I don't know how to spell it in cyrillicI hope that doesn't get in the way of the concept
( gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 17:07,
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I'm just a bit generally disappointed in the propaganda round here at the moment,they're all of the form "Vote X, because if you vote Y, Z will win."
I'd rather see something more along the lines of "Don't be put off voting X by people who say they can't win."
(I'd rather see something more along the lines of "Don't be put off voting X by people who say they can't win."
Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 17:10,
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I live in a different country so my views are just those of an outsider looking inThat being said, Lib Dems in England have an uphill battle. There is no shame in being the underdog.
( gronkpan @vomitinglarry.bsky.social,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 17:14,
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Yep, I agree to the tips of my toesI've been telling Lib Dem organisers to stop banging on about two horse races and make some proper principled arguments. The whole point of being a Liberal is not being a reactionary arsecandle.
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John Q Wagonwheel Spent,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 17:17,
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All three of them are playing the "two horse race" card here at the moment.It's insane. The latest Labour one tells me that the Conservative candidate is hoping I'll vote Lib Dem. I was kind of under the impression that he'd want me to vote Conservative. But I guess I may as well now, anyway. What are they trying to do here? Make me strategically vote Conservative? I'm sure as hell not voting Labour, because then the Tories will win!
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 17:24,
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Labour think the Tories want you to split the Labour vote by voting Lib Dem.Baffling logic thought up by constituency organiser drones. Surely people vote Lib Dem more because they hate both the Tories and Labour, or because they like our policies. Bizarre tactical voting is an illusion.
( John Q Wagonwheel Spent,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 17:31,
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The Tories aren't going to win hereunless almost everyone who voted Lib Dem last time switches parties. The idea that the Tory candidate is rubbing his hands at the thought of people switching from Labour to Lib Dem is completely absurd.
( Moon Girl Technologies horrendous beanbag,
Fri 9 Apr 2010, 17:39,
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