Respectfully:
Balls. The whole "you can't have a discussion without being labelled a racist" is bollocks spouted by people upset on being called out on their racism. Waaah waaah waaah.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 13:36,
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Nah, that reaction is quintessentially part of the problem
Being concerned about the volume of people crossing the borders of a country and settling; immigration, and the effect it might be having on people already living in that country, is completely different from being prejudice about a bunch of people because collectively they are black, Muslim, Polish, whatever, and hence what I was droning on about.
The complete inability of the political establishment to explain to these people they are in all probability much better off economically as a modern industrialised society for having an influx of mostly skilled professional immigrants in virtually all areas of their lives is where Farage and his middle England brigade of pub bores have filled the vacuum. Once you've pointed out who gives a fucking shit if your BT engineer goes to Friday prayers, or your reliable plumer is from Warsaw, they might realise Farage is an opportunist, with some pretty dodgy aspirations for us in Europe, and prone to dwelling on issues, such as smoking bans in pubs and offices, which no politician should be wasting a breath even thinking about, let alone bringing up in conversation with naturally skeptical journalists. What troubles me is we do have a large number of people who genuinely feel like the political establishment have ignored concerns that really didn't need to be an issue because whenever they've piped up with them remarks like yours have suppressed them by making them feel like a racist cunt, and not by pointing out, 'what are you actually worried about; really?'
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Jahled Three shades of black, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 14:20,
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I am completely too hungover to properly reply.
But you're completely correct about ukip appealing to people who feel voiceless, and ukip's wobbly policy choices.
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Tab Hunter Make this useless process end and so, begin again, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 15:27,
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Ah, hangovers
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Jahled Three shades of black, Sun 27 Apr 2014, 15:48,
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