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This is a normal post I know exactly what you're getting at.
However the fact is Israel does now exist. Should the U.S. and U.K. et al have helped create it back in 1947? I would argue that they shouldn't have done. But hindsight is a beautiful thing. I don't think the international community can now say to Israel "Sorry chaps, this isn't really working out, you've had a good seven decade run, but now it's time to pack your bags." But on the other hand the settlers going outside the original borders is IMO unacceptable.
(, Fri 29 Apr 2016, 12:15, , Reply)
This is a normal post Not suggesting they should pack their bags
Everybody has to be somewhere. But countries come and go. Borders change. When I was a kid you could go on holiday to Yugoslavia, for instance.
No state has a "right" to exist.
(, Fri 29 Apr 2016, 13:39, , Reply)
This is a normal post No absolute right to exist...
But any state that currently does exist has a right to attempt to continue to do so.

And whether or not anyone else likes it, ALL states will make their best attempt to continue to exist.

Corner an animal and try to attack it and you'll quickly find yourself subject to it's teeth and claws. Whether or not you think it has a moral right to brandish those teeth and claws is essentially irrelevant... brandish them it will.
(, Fri 29 Apr 2016, 16:46, , Reply)