Israel is the ancient Jewish homeland
and existed as such for at least 1000 years before Mohammad was even born.
I'm not saying that's justification, I'm just saying that the Palestinians have just as poor a claim to it as the Israelis do, since they both got the land by conquest... but if we're going to side with the original owners, it'd be the Jewish people.
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'ancient Jewish homeland'
Hmmmm - this would be the 'homeland' of the 'wandering tribes of Israel' that lots of sky pixie believers have written of?
Keyword: Wandering
(, Fri 29 Apr 2016, 12:27, Share, Reply)
Well they stuck around long enough to build temples and crap that predate 1947.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 29 Apr 2016, 12:51,
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We should help the picts and celts drive the saxons out of england too.
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Draconacticus Reject shampoo. Demand real poo!, Fri 29 Apr 2016, 12:53,
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The point is, if you're going to try to use "who was here first" as an argument,
then you have to support the Jews, who have the earliest historical claim.
The OTHER point is that that line of argument is inherently bullshit.
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Well, Jews have the earliest written claim because a lot of other cultures had no tradition of writing shit down.
They wrote a book that said they were God's chosen people (why anyone would ever take umbrage to such a claim is beyond me!) and that they were there first so it's theirs.
Now, the only proof that they were indeed there first is the absence of any other written record or archaeological evidence contradicting that.
In any case, it's a silly argument. You'd need to turf everyone not native american out of the USA, most english and australians would have to relocate to saxony... historical claims.. pfft.
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