
I've become sceptical about a lot of the global warming related fundamentalism that we see. I spoke to some solar scientists who said the one issue they have with a lot of the climate change figures is that environmentalists take the Sun as a constant. It's not. Solar activity alone causes great changes in the global temperature. When you start to think about the effects of the wider cosmos, it becomes even more complicated.
I would, however, consider myself to be 'an environmentalist' in some ways ie lowering pollution should be a priority for health reasons (3 million people worldwide die because of air pollution every year); we should have less packaging and should recycle because of landfill issues; finding non-fossil fuel energy for transportation is urgent for political reasons (get out of the fucking Middle East once and for all)...
I don't, however, think there is some kind of conspiracy to create a 'one world government'... which will be run by lizards.
Why oh why do people with an interesting and valid point about one thing have to go and ruin it by coming across as paranoid and illogical fuck-ups?!
(You may be interested in Bjorn Lomborg's work...)
( , Fri 18 Jan 2008, 12:24, Reply)

I take them outside, point in the general direction of the sun and say
"Look, big fuck off ball of fire."
Though I just don't know who to trust, I've seen no decent evidence from either party. They just both say "We have loooads of data on the matter!" and never show us any of it.
And I have to say, the 'argh, global warming!' lot do it more than the others, 'cos the others will often try and get publicity for their work to disprove the aforementioned. Though, as I said... no idea.
( , Fri 18 Jan 2008, 12:31, Reply)

to see past 'emotion' when it comes to these kinds of things... Once you really try and look at the 'facts' (as opposed to the 'truth' that people claim is 'out there') then lots of things start to look very, very different.
I suspect that a huge amount of the global warming debate is emotionally based rather than factually.
In the 1970s people were warning us that we were entering a new Ice Age; in 1999 millions of dollars was spent on preventing the Y2K disaster; how many scare stories have there been about diseases which will wipe huge numbers of us out 'any day now'?
I worry that the most vocal Global Warming people are no different than the guy on the street corner who preaches about the end of the world... :-/
( , Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:06, Reply)

This is an ice age, we've been in one for tens of thousands of years. A lot of people don't seem to realise this. World temperatures at the moment are at a very low point compared to most of the worlds history.
For the Earth to have polar caps is quite a rare thing.
( , Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:32, Reply)

and I had a HIPS done
the guy told me it was a low percentage and if I make some changes I'd get a higher figure
"not really" I said
"but it will look better to the people that are buying the house"
"not if they care as little as I do about it"* I said
* translation; take your bullshit report and your bullshit job and stick it
( , Fri 18 Jan 2008, 13:38, Reply)