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There's a significant difference between claims made by an academic in a media interview or even a book and what they commit to reasonably tiered peer reviewed publishing. The podcast interview in question didn't come with links to the papers he's referring to so when he uses informal, imprecise terms such as 'big' we can't assess the data backing it up and his interpretation . The Twiv podcast I mentioned above comes with a reference list of all the papers the virologists have discussed on each episode.
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Mudface The web isn't callipygian, Fri 13 Mar 2020, 7:02,
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