wasn't nearly as good as his follow-up: "Charlie Two Zero - You sunk my battleship"
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Fri 14 May 2021, 15:04,
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Now you appear to have calmed down, and yes, yes, The Spectator is vile and evil right wing dogma,
do you really not think this new Partridge incarnation is utter shite compared to his 90s outings?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 14 May 2021, 19:51,
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you prefer his edgy early stuff?
I loathe it all. And him. And Courtney Love.
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The Ann Coulter Fan Club Babylon is burning at, Fri 14 May 2021, 22:44,
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No, I’m just talking about Partridge.
He’s done other good stuff. The Trip. Philomena. He’s flogging a dead horse here though.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Fri 14 May 2021, 22:58,
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Oh I wouldn't go so far as to call it vile
but like other media that used to be centre right, it's followed its readership down a rabbithole of neo-trumpian orthodoxies at the expense of any gravitas it once possessed. The thunberg 'article' could have been an aggrieved tweet
As to the new partridge, I've not seen it, though if iannucci is still writing it's bound to have it's moments even if it suffers from over-familiarity
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 15 May 2021, 0:54,
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Iannucci isn’t. Your description of The Spectator’s editorial line is utterly absurd.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 15 May 2021, 1:16,
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the idiom is brit public school, but the targets and ad hominen attacks are depressingly familiar
I googled "spectator thunberg" knowing I'd find predictable vitriol, but slightly taken aback by how juvenile and unnuanced the writing was.
"pigtailed Swedish school girl staged a hissy fit from the UN". "goblin of doom", "chinese virus" - all this in response to a tweet saying it was nice to be back at school.
There's nothing to learn here other than they hate thunberg and coogan, and it's not even particularly funny or well expressed. To me the parallels with trump are obvious, and it appeals to a similar kind of repressed and impotent bitterness that they act as ciphers for.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 15 May 2021, 3:46,
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You’re spoiling for a fight that isn’t even there.
The article makes absolutely no mention of Coogan’s politics whatsoever, it’s a critique of the comic character Partridge’s declining comedy value, that is highly praised for it’s 90s period. And then you start dragging Greta into it. I understand you think The Spectator is evil. I get that. But all the article says is that Partridge isn’t as funny as he used to be and that’s a shame. You even admit you haven’t seen the show that this assertion is based on. Yet still you want to pick a fight about it, while at no point addressing the essential substance of the article. It’s just weird. I’m increasingly certain you’ve not even read the article. You just want a fight.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 15 May 2021, 12:13,
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you seem incapable of understanding any argument that's not some kind of reductionist ad hominen, which is why you're its core market
fine, spectator = evil, is that easier for you?
forget my observation with examples about how the spectator has been running attack pieces about coogan since leveson, with the obvious (or so I thought but I forget who I'm dealing with) inference that any spectator review of a coogan project will be through this editorial lens biased by its naked antipathy for him. how those same articles by the deputy editor writing an article that says no more that Coogan is a pillock are indicative of the downmarket intellectual malaise of a 200 year old publication, with the thunberg example sounding like it was written by some angry reddit troll than a professional writer. and with all this in mind, how it's no surprise that you're a fan willing to defend it. It used to be a mag for small c conservatives, city types, almost a tele weekend supplement with decent writers. Auden and kinglsy amis wouldn't touch it with a barge pole now, it's now squarely aimed at angry vauxhall driving middle england brexiters too stupidly pretentious to realise how far it's fallen. It's the burberry of the publishing world
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 15 May 2021, 14:39,
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Ok. Very good.
What do you think of the actual content of the article itself? Could you apply your devastating critical analysis to what was actually said in that specific article? Why do you insist instead on generalised criticism of the publication? I posted a link to an article. One article. I didn’t post a link to The Spectator’s subscription page. What do you think about the article you didn’t read about the show you didn’t watch?
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Sat 15 May 2021, 15:13,
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all I learnt from the article was that the writer seemed both surprised and upset coogan's appearance had changed slightly in the two decades since I'm Alan Partridge ran
he managed to shitcan it without describing a single episode or plotline or gag from the new series. Perhaps he never watched the new series as well? so there's not much to critically analyse and it really wasn't worth linking to, so I thought instead I'd make a broader point about the rag itself
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Sat 15 May 2021, 23:02,
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