There wasnt much protest against Afghanistan
Certainly not at the start (just after 9/11). Iraq was when it all kicked off at which point the two conflicts were conflated to some extent.
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they were only conflated as enemies of 9/11 by the US and its allies. the antiwar protesters understood the folly and lies behind both conflicts
the same people who organised the giant hyde park (which we saw all of and were close enough to hear all the speakers, some of whom talked about afghanistan, and lady dynamite singing for some reason) we the Stop the war coalition. they had organised several smaller protest about afghanistan, I attended one, but when blair published his case for war with iraq it got a lot of people mobilised. The afghan conflict started with missile strikes, then a limited operation in tora bora, but it was when they committed a ground task force with really opaque strategic aims that a lot of us, who could see the obvious parallel with vietnam and it's escalation without a clear end game and based on a lot of wishful thinking, became really alarmed enough to protest
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 16 Aug 2021, 12:46,
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Your friends at the Stop The War coalition have already demanded the UK pay reparations to Afghanistan.
Given Afghanistan is now under control of the Taleban, they are literally asking the U.K. to pay a political organisation that amongst other things opposes democracy in any form, denies females access to education, and stones and beheads people they don’t approve of, like gay people for example.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 16 Aug 2021, 13:08,
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how many chinese made items do you have in your home, prufrock
I mean before I get into the complex subject of ethics in multilateral relations, I'd want to gauge whether you're an unknowing or knowing hypocrite. Actually, fuck it. dealing with you is just parsing one stupid argument after another, the same kind of stuff I heard in the march to war. It's depressing.
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Mon 16 Aug 2021, 13:47,
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When losing an argument, try whataboutery, in fact fuck it, just resort to a non sequitur.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 16 Aug 2021, 13:53,
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Jesus fucking Christ.
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evil_andy Stick stick stick stick sticky sticky stick stick, Mon 16 Aug 2021, 14:27,
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Just because a dickhead tells you a good idea doesn't make it a bad idea.
So if war is bad, the fact that you're being told it's bad by someone you otherwise disagree with on some related topics shouldn't blind you to the fact that war is indeed bad.
Of course, usually we all get that bit wrong. If Jonathan King told me that eating food was necessary for health, for example, I'd probably be wondering what the ghastly trick was.
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Invisible Wizard - 13th Level Scrote, Mon 16 Aug 2021, 17:54,
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I’m not opposed to anti-war sentiment, in certain contexts I might disagree with it, but I don’t object to it as a standpoint.
I do object to giving a barbaric and tyrannical regime like the Taleban cash compensation in any context. That’s what STW are calling for. Not food and medical aid, but cash reparations.
War is bad. That much I have learned.
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Prufrock Lucifer, son of the morning!, Mon 16 Aug 2021, 18:40,
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