There's a rather good article in The Paris Review about moon landing conspiracy theories.
www.theparisreview.org/blog/2019/07/18/how-stanley-kubrick-staged-the-moon-landing-and-other-stories/
I'm somewhat on the fence about the whole thing, personally. If Scott Manley says that America had the technological capabilities to land men on the moon in 1969, then I have absolutely no reason to doubt him. But, I'm also absolutely certain that the American government had a contingency plan in place to make the mission appear successful should it never quite make it off the ground (so to speak).
Russia was arguably ahead of America in the space race during the '60s. Considering that it was the midst of the Cold War, those commie bastards beating the USA to the moon was practically unthinkable from a propogandist's perspective.
I wouldn't be surprised in the slightest (and sort of hope) that it does turn out to be a hoax. But I'm not particularly bothered either way.
(, Wed 14 Feb 2024, 7:12, Reply)
"I'm also absolutely certain that the American government had a contingency plan" - yet of course you have absolutely no evidence for that extraordinary claim.
"I'm not particularly bothered" - you should be, because the idiots who believe in conspiracy theory can vote. They put children off science, it reduces the investments, it stagnates progress.
To say there's overwhelming evidence that the Moon landings happened is a gross understatement. Thousands of photos, hundreds of hours of video, spaceships in museums, Moon rocks unlike anything from Earth, personal testimonies from thousands of people, carefully monitored around the world, and so on.
There's exactly the same amount of evidence that it was fake as there is of a flat earth: zero, zilch, nada. Just some crazy idiots making pathetic claims, which have been debunked over-and-over.
You've probably never been to Australia; do you think that doesn't exist? Are you "on the fence" about it?
What would you think if you met someone who wasn't sure Australia was real? You'd think they were crazy. Apply the same principle to the Moon landings.
(, Wed 14 Feb 2024, 8:01, Reply)
You can't be 'on the fence' without being a thundering moron
It's the classic opener for a genuine conspiracy nutter who doesn't want to be laughed out the pub. Pretty much same intellectual level.
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simbosan is too tired, Wed 14 Feb 2024, 11:17,
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'OIn the fence' probably wasn't the best terminology.
I do believe the moon landing took place. But I'd hardly die of shock if it turned out it didn't. Much like I'd hardly die of shock if it turned out the US Government allowed the 9/11 attacks to go ahead as a convenient excuse to go liberating.
(, Wed 14 Feb 2024, 12:11, Reply)
One thing little mentioned is disinformation.
Given the Cold War (and the shit flying around since the Ukraine invasion) isn't the simplest answer Russian disinformation. They are good at persuading rebellious adolescents (of all ages) that the parents (government) are tricking them. See also Trump.
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FeralCatMan Long ads need comments sections, Wed 14 Feb 2024, 14:22,
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I think war is a different case
It’s always been difficult to tell what’s going on even if you’re in charge, and secrecy is important in military operations And Putin is an exKGB dictator of a totalitarian state at war, so he’s next level bullshit as you say.
NASA is a civil agency. Its funding might have come from government desire to compete with Russia, but they’re not military and they’re not at war. You could watch all their failures on live tv, and there was publicly available analysis into those failures with oversight and accountability
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cumquat may will not be commenting further on the allegations, Wed 14 Feb 2024, 21:50,
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What the flipping heck has that got to do with Buzz Aldrin punching a guy in 2002?
(, Thu 15 Feb 2024, 12:25, Reply)