you made the claim, I'm sure you'll be able to list one that either clinton and obama started, being the thoughtful bloke you are
there was some nato bombing in yugoslavia under clinton, but the serbs were already kicking the shit out the kosovans. Obama came to power with afghanistan and iraq already in full swing and there was mostly drawdown in his terms. Likewise obama did bomb libya, but there was a civil war already going on there. Neither of these limited interventions would be described as wars in themselves.
I could google, but as I was alive during these events I'll just have to rely on knowing stuff. But I am curious
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This echoes my thoughts on the matter
I mean, the words "start a new war." do have a pretty well-defined meaning that I don't think apply to most presidents in the last few decades. I can think of Vietnam, Korea, Afghanistan, Afghanistan/Iraq.
There may be others, but they escape me for the moment.
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and Trump wasn't exactly a dove
he bombed syria, had that tit for tat with iran where he drone striked that general.
Still, he did seem to get on well with Putin. He lifted sanctions against vlad until it was blocked by congress, back when there was still a few in his party that would stand up to him. He must have said sorry for annexing crimea and promised his buddy donny he wouldn't do it again. "I iz nice guy, da. Trust me"
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